# Can Elliot's Overreaching Advice Be Improved Upon? **URL:** \ **Category:** Friendly\ **Created:** [May 31, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/can-elliots-overreaching-advice-be-improved-upon/178 "2021-05-31T17:43:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![doubtingthomas](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/doubtingthomas/32/100_2.png) [@doubtingthomas](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/doubtingthomas)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/can-elliots-overreaching-advice-be-improved-upon/178/4 "2021-06-02T20:58:25Z")
> [@doubtingthomas](#): > > The realization is that (according to my understanding of overreachhing) overreaching tells you what not to do. The most important advice for a lay person can be improved if that advice also told that person what to do instead of just telling what not to do. I had this realization when I was having a conversation in discussion topic [Tangent from Meditation](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/tangent-from-meditation/170) with ingracke. I didn’t realize the importance of learning grammar and trees until I realized how many times I was failing in trying to say what I wanted. Maybe I am giving too much importance to this one event and I don’t even know if I will even do learning activities in an organized manner but I do feel this realization is true. The realization is that learning has to be problem motivated. Until the problem is not fully in your face you won’t know how and why you need to solve that problem. You won’t know how frequently that error occurs in your life. (I have a feeling that I’m making some mistake here.) --- _[View the full topic](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/can-elliots-overreaching-advice-be-improved-upon/178)._