Thanks. Hackethal has banned dissent (related to me) on his websites and made it clear he won’t discuss the conflict with me or anyone who agrees with me.
I have been trying for six years to get anyone on the other side of the broader conflict (with Deutsch and his fans) to discuss the conflict. None of them have ever been willing to discuss it.
While I have some issues with your post, if you’re willing to discuss and try to clarify some issues and resolve some disagreements (not exit the conversation quickly) then I appreciate that.
While I disagree with a lot of details, I think my biggest concern is related to context. Hackethal’s big claims/conclusions are things like:
- CF is a dangerous cult.
- Temple initiated force against Hackethal.
- Temple deserves to be sued by multiple people.
- Temple is so toxic that it’s inappropriate for Deutsch or Hackethal to ask their communities to stop harassing Temple, or to stop having friendly conversations with or platforming harassers.
- Temple should be shunned and lose his philosophy career.
- Temple should delete everything he ever wrote related to Hackethal, apologize, then never speak about Hackethal again.
Keeping this context in mind, here are some of the claims you (Neo) brought up:
A. Temple said something rude about Deutsch.
B. Due to emotions, Temple has an overly negative view of Deutsch’s books.
C. Without hiding his identity, Temple clicked a Discord server invite link that he shouldn’t have.
D. Temple wanted to know why a small community was being splintered/schismed, discuss it, and attempt conflict resolution.
E. Temple sometimes uses rhetorical tactics.
Even if I concede A-E and many other things, I don’t think it would justify 1-6. Basically, I see many issues being raised as multiple orders of magnitude too small for the big, serious conclusions.
You (Neo) said 1 is laughable. So what conclusions do you think are at stake in a discussion of A-E? Do you think any of 2-6 are at stake, or are those false or laughable? Are there other stakes that you have in mind?
There are also other relevant stakes like whether Hackethal’s articles are an initiation of force against me, whether Hackethal’s book plagiarized me, the Veritula issues, etc. I think your positions on those issues are important context (which you gave some information about but not a full statement). I don’t know if you think A-E have much relevance to my big claims against Hackethal (I think they don’t).