### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/24 "2021-07-26T22:34:00Z")
> **[PayPal to research transactions that fund hate groups, extremists](https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/paypal-research-blocking-transactions-that-fund-hate-groups-extremists-2021-07-26/)**
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> PayPal Holdings Inc (PYPL.O) is partnering with non-profit organisation the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) to investigate how extremist and hate movements in the United States take advantage of financial platforms to fund their criminal activities.
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### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/25 "2021-08-11T02:59:10Z")
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(I disagree with his anti-mask message here but don’t think he should get banned. I guess now that Trump got permabanned from social media, banning sitting Senators is no big deal…)
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### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/26 "2021-08-30T17:16:31Z")
> **[COVID vaccine doubter Alex Berenson permanently banned from Twitter](https://nypost.com/2021/08/28/covid-vaccine-doubter-alex-berenson-permanently-banned-from-twitter/)**
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> Conservative commentator and vaccine doubter Alex Berenson has reportedly been permanently suspended from Twitter for violating the social media platform’s COVID-19 misinformation rules.
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### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/27 "2021-09-05T16:57:14Z")
> **[Comedy Central caves to cancel culture, removes episode from 'The Office'...](https://www.newsweek.com/comedy-central-caves-cancel-culture-removes-episode-office-line-1623873)**
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> Disappointed viewers say "it was only a matter of time" before 'Diversity Day,' one of "The Office's" most popular episodes, was taken off the airwaves.
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### Author:  [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/28 "2021-09-10T04:50:11Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwHtX5wFVQY)
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### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2021, 9:24am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/29 "2021-09-10T09:24:30Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfY_L-gqNuk)
long interview. some references to cancel culture towards beginning (haven’t watched whole thing)
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### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2021, 9:29am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/30 "2021-09-10T09:29:09Z")
Lauren mentions at the beginning that she didn’t talk about case before cuz she didn’t wanna jeopardize things. She has more discretion than Aubrey de Grey.
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### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/31 "2021-09-10T12:55:06Z")
don’t know much about arbitration, but based on Lauren’s description the situation sounds awful
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### Author:  [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/32 "2021-09-25T20:54:03Z")
> [@anonymous11](#):
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> I had a visceral low-level negative reaction to the idea that an article could be dangerous. Waste of time or not worth paying attention to, I can see - dangerous, I am not so sure.
You think ideas don’t rule the world? Ideas aren’t powerful enough to be dangerous? Do you only favor free speech because you think speech doesn’t matter much and can’t be dangerous, and there’s no reason to control something harmless?
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### Author:  [@anonymous23](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/anonymous23)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/33 "2021-09-25T21:38:28Z")
Same anon here (my previous anon name timed out).
On second thought, I think the issue is not an objection to ideas being dangerous per se (so, I agree that they can be). I think the issue is that I have objections to what I see as typical strategies employed by people who think ideas can be dangerous (which I don’t think you approve of, but which comes up as a somewhat “automatic” reaction despite my having a mental model of your positions that contradicts the thing I’m objecting to).
That’s a probably unclear high level summary so let me get into some details. So I think I have a mental model in my head of a two sides of a free speech debate. And on the one side are people who are pro free speech, who think the answer to answer to bad speech is more speech, who think that the truth will always win out in the end in a free society, and so on. And maybe a lot of these people are kind of naive about how dangerous ideas can be.
And on the other side are people who think ideas can be dangerous and destabilizing, who think that bad ideas can cause enormous destruction, and who think the govt should play a role in forcibly suppressing speech because of this big danger. I don’t think you’re at all in the “the government should forcibly suppress speech” camp, but when I hear you talking about the danger of ideas, I have an immediate reaction kind of like as if you were, cuz in my mind there is a strong association between thinking ideas are dangerous and wanting to suppress them using the force of the state.
Now, logically, you can of course think ideas are dangerous and also be in favor of free speech, and I think you actually have that view. But despite having some explicit knowledge of your positions, I still react sometimes as if you had different/more conventional views.
I think that issue - having express knowledge of your views but reacting as if you had different views - is a theme that comes up in different contexts (e.g. reading stuff in a social dynamics type way and reacting based on that rather than reading it in just a literal way). It’s also a subset of the more general issue of not having explicit knowledge integrated very well with one’s automatic reactions/intuitions.
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### Author:  [@anonymous24](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/anonymous24)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2021, 6:25am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/34 "2021-09-26T06:25:29Z")
This post focuses on the trees but not the forest. Because there’s no introduction or conclusion stated, it’s hard to tell if it’s an admission about having a bunch of tribalist biases or an attempt to distract from the tribalist biases by getting lost in details.
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### Author:  [@anonymous23](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/anonymous23)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/35 "2021-09-29T17:35:38Z")
My intention for the post was as an admission of not treating Elliot’s views fairly due to some automated reactions/interpretations getting in the way. I would not have framed the content myself precisely in terms of being “an admission about having a bunch of tribalist biases” but I don’t have any criticism of that as a summary.
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### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/36 "2021-09-29T17:59:34Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/youtube-is-banning-prominent-anti-vaccine-activists-and-blocking-all-anti-vaccine-content/ar-AAOXmdF](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/youtube-is-banning-prominent-anti-vaccine-activists-and-blocking-all-anti-vaccine-content/ar-AAOXmdF)
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### Author:  [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/37 "2021-09-30T21:31:04Z")
Ron Paul had a YouTube channel banned but then reinstated. YouTube claims it was a “mistake”. See thread
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### Author:  [@alanforr](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/alanforr)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/38 "2021-10-05T11:56:50Z")
A left wing anarchist think tank has been locked out of paypal, who will keep their money for 180 days:
> **[Press Release: Anarchist Think Tank Locked Out of PayPal](https://c4ss.org/content/55344)**
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> UPDATE – 9/25/2021 PayPal has gotten back to us. We’re unable to ever use PayPal again. The reason given by a customer service rep was that “…your account is too much of a risk to continue a relationship with PayPal. This decision is final and...
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### Author:  [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/39 "2022-02-03T20:31:39Z")
Asmongold criticizes Reclaim The Net’s new claim about YouTube “Censorship”:
[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e2e1f5c26a8bf3f6bb9289ceebea9668c3c3a1b4.jpeg "Asmongold LOSES HIS MIND Over YouTube's New "Censorship"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOR-gd9CYwE)
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### Author:  [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/deplatforming-and-censorship-examples/211/40 "2022-02-04T18:23:19Z")
Followup video. Asmon has tons of tribalist fans, who only want certain political takes like “screw big tech censorship”, who were flaming Asmon and YT. Asmon responds:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHk9y1I0eGU)
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