# Elliot Shares Links (2021) **URL:** \ **Category:** Unbounded\ **Tags:** elliot-temple\ **Created:** [May 21, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132 "2021-05-21T17:00:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Lebowski](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/lebowski/32/47_2.png) [@Lebowski](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/222 "2021-09-19T00:39:29Z")
> [@Elliot](#): > > I just i did right click and “copy link” on a link, because I wanted to open it in a different browser, and realized that’s another way the link click counter becomes inaccurate. I do text browsing (like CF) in Firefox but most video watching in Chrome because of the speed control extension. So when I “click” a link that is or I expect to contain a video I’d want to watch I actually copy/paste it into Chrome. ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/223 "2021-09-19T00:40:47Z")
The Chrome extension Video Speed Controller is also available for Firefox. For Safari I use Accelerate, which has fewer features. ---
**Author:** ![Max](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/max/32/97_2.png) [@Max](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Max)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/224 "2021-09-19T00:54:04Z")
> [@Lebowski](#): > > > [@Elliot](#): > > > > I just i did right click and “copy link” on a link, because I wanted to open it in a different browser, and realized that’s another way the link click counter becomes inaccurate. > > I do text browsing (like CF) in Firefox but most video watching in Chrome because of the speed control extension. So when I “click” a link that is or I expect to contain a video I’d want to watch I actually copy/paste it into Chrome. I looked at how discourse tracks links the other night: when you click it opens a link in a new tab and sends a post request back to discourse server (`/clicks/track`). **this only happens for left-clicks, not middle-clicks** (which is how I usually open tabs b/c the tab doesn’t change, unlike left click) Just now: Left clicking “[2021 Champions Showdown | Chess 9LX: Day 3 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTtc1LEtUrg)” **[in Elliot’s quote](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/220)** also didn’t send a click event. left clicking the original post _did_ though. left clicking your own link (one in your own post) does send a track event. From the above I’d expect that _the vast majority_ of my clicks are not tracked by discourse. (Note: I use FF with duckduckgo privacy enhancements and some other things, so those might interfere, but I haven’t noticed anything that would indicate that) ps. I use “Video Speed Controller” in firefox, and I’ve just started using this and I really like it [Tree Style Tab – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/) edit: right clicking a link and selecting ‘open in new tab’ doesn’t send a track event either ---
**Author:** ![JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/justinceo/32/9_2.png) [@JustinCEO](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/JustinCEO)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/225 "2021-09-19T02:21:52Z")
> [@deroj](#): > > As for checking the links I usually don’t click on the tiktok links b/c they usually have no additional info about what they are about and thus don’t really draw my interest. Sometimes I do click on a tiktok link but usually do not watch more than one or two for the time being. I think additional info would be _nice_ and _useful_, and I think it’s shitty that onebox doesn’t work for tiktok, but I don’t think that lack of info is a good reason to not click Elliot’s links. I’m curious if there’s something about the context of it being a link in a forum post that’s relevant. Like if Elliot was still doing newsletter and had an “Interesting TikToks” section with bare links, would you click on some of those? ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:29am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/226 "2021-09-19T03:29:49Z")
[https://www.tiktok.com/@kimber621/video/7007164236564647174](https://www.tiktok.com/@kimber621/video/7007164236564647174) didn’t know whales could play fetch (it’s not that surprising given that they train orca whales for shows) ---
**Author:** ![Max](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/max/32/97_2.png) [@Max](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Max)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/227 "2021-09-19T03:33:25Z")
I wonder if it was trained? It looks like open ocean. Actually, the poster is from the US, so she’s probably on a tourist thing, and there’s plenty of opportunity for training in that sort of case. I think it’s a [Beluga whale - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beluga_whale) and that page mentions some populations don’t migrate. Also, didn’t know landscape tiktok vids were a thing ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/228 "2021-09-19T17:03:59Z")
A post was merged into an existing topic: [Elliot’s Microblogging](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliots-microblogging/191/22) ---
**Author:** ![Lebowski](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/lebowski/32/47_2.png) [@Lebowski](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/229 "2021-09-19T17:44:30Z")
> [@Elliot](#): > > The Chrome extension Video Speed Controller is also available for Firefox. For Safari I use Accelerate, which has fewer features. Ya, I knew that VSC was available for Firefox. When it came out (after I already had it on Chrome) I decided I didn’t want to install it on Firefox because it can read content from all tabs. I do stuff where security and privacy is relevant in Firefox, and I avoid doing security or privacy relevant stuff in Chrome, both because of Google spying and because of extensions which might also spy. I don’t use Safari much because it’s limited to only my Apple devices. ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/230 "2021-09-19T17:49:26Z")
Ah. I take it you do some private/secure stuff in non-private tabs? Cuz I believe the extensions can’t spy on private tabs unless you let them. ---
**Author:** ![Max](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/max/32/97_2.png) [@Max](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Max)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/231 "2021-09-19T21:48:48Z")
IDK about @Lebowski’s case, but one example that comes to mind for using non-private tabs like this is operating in multiple AWS accounts (or other devops-y / cloud stuff). I have made extensive use of profiles (both [Chrome](https://www.techsolutions.support.com/how-to/how-to-create-and-switch-profiles-in-chrome-12564) and [Firefox](https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles) support this, though I found chrome’s easier to use (~2019)). From memory at least these things are isolated: extensions, saved passwords, associated google/firefox account sign-in, history, themes, cookies. I created profiles for each of the 3 main environments (dev, test, prod) and then would use my main profile for personal AWS stuff (which was still useful to have even with the other 3 envs). I also color-coded the themes so it was immediately obvious which one I was using and I wouldn’t accidentally do stuff in the wrong environment. (There were other safeguards, too) One reason I liked chrome profiles was that (at least on windows) I could have multiple chrome buttons on the taskbar. Equiv in macos would be multiple chrome icons (one for each profile) on the dock. That made it v easy. ---
**Author:** ![Lebowski](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/lebowski/32/47_2.png) [@Lebowski](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/232 "2021-09-20T18:11:20Z")
> [@Elliot](#): > > I take it you do some private/secure stuff in non-private tabs? Cuz I believe the extensions can’t spy on private tabs unless you let them. I hardly ever use private tabs. When I looked into it (a long time ago) I got the impression that private tabs are mainly good for preventing correlations between your activities. Like, without private taps certain networks or advertisers could know: Person A uses Facebook with ID joe, has an account at Chase bank, and searched for snow shovels. Instead, with private tabs what can be known is Person A uses Facebook with ID joe. Person B has an account at Chase bank. Person C searched for snow shovels. Persons A, B, and C all have the same origin IP address, but might or might not be the same human being. That kind of “protection” did not seem worth the trouble. It seemed more like a false sense of security to me. I wasn’t aware that private tabs could prevent an extension with permissions to read site content from reading the site content of a private tab. Maybe that’s a recent development or maybe it’s something I overlooked when I investigated the use case for private tabs. Video speed controller was the first extension I remember using. It’s possible I formed my opinion of private tabs before that and never updated. ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/233 "2021-09-21T19:26:19Z")
2 posts were split to a new topic: [The Canadian Mass Grave Hoax (video)](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/the-canadian-mass-grave-hoax-video/332) ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/234 "2021-09-20T20:37:01Z")
[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8ffd370daedb2762bc63dd3e5e5b280de64a4265.jpeg "The History of the A Button Challenge - Part 2: The Pannenkoek Revolution") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME92WaNDGVM) I like effort to understand details and get them right. ---
**Author:** ![deroj](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/deroj/32/31_2.png) [@deroj](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/deroj)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/236 "2021-09-21T13:12:02Z")
> [@Elliot](#): > > So I think you just don’t like/respect/value me much. You act like you don’t think I’m a great, Rand-like thinker, but you don’t say or discuss that. Meanwhile you’re [asking for my help in another thread](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/close-reading-of-yes-or-no-philosophy-summary/325) (with substantial ambiguity about what you’re asking for). I have thought about this. I think that what I did was to assume that the unlabelled links were not interesting (mainly depressing) to me without even clicking them. I also thought some about why I think this happened. I think I made a rushed conclusion re the tiktok content in general based on the one link I did click and some of the others that did have some additional info alongside the url. I think that most of them were about how stuff in the world is bad in different ways, and looking at bad things in the world that I don’t think that I can directly impact makes me somewhat depressed and makes my day worse. I think this is connected to [what I discussed briefly](https://curi.us/2380-max-microblogging#18863) with @Max last year. Maybe I’m too fragile to this kind of content b/c of some bad ideas, or maybe I mistakenly think stuff belongs to this category b/c I don’t understand it better. Or something else. Maybe this is just me rationalising. I’m not sure. But I do think that I like/respect/value you (@Elliot ) much. I try to listen to your advice, as I understand it, and I spend a substantial amount of time and effort on what you write/say. I think that roughly 90% of all the time that I spend on philosophy I spend on your content. Content that has lead me to make changes to my life. I don’t think that I would do all that if I did not like/respect/value you much. I don’t think that I would spend a lot of effort on something that I didn’t like/respect/value much. **Edit: Forgot to add the link to old Max discussion. Added it now.** ---
**Author:** ![deroj](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/deroj/32/31_2.png) [@deroj](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/deroj)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/237 "2021-09-21T13:17:25Z")
> [@Max](#): > > Isn’t the fact that Elliot posted it enough? He’s posting them for a reason, and filtering them for you (and all of us). The videos each have a point to them (sometimes more than one). Also, if he added comments to all the links – thats overhead + primes ppl so they will react differently if they know his opinion. I don’t think I’ve watched any TT he’s posted and thought _well that was a waste of a few minutes_ (and ofc you can always just close the tab if it’s not interesting or relevant). > [@JustinCEO](#): > > I think additional info would be _nice_ and _useful_ , and I think it’s shitty that onebox doesn’t work for tiktok, but I don’t think that lack of info is a good reason to not click Elliot’s links. I [try to explain what I think happened](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/236) in the post to Elliot. > [@JustinCEO](#): > > I’m curious if there’s something about the context of it being a link in a forum post that’s relevant. Like if Elliot was still doing newsletter and had an “Interesting TikToks” section with bare links, would you click on some of those? Good point. If they were in Elliot’s newsletter I think that I would have clicked on them. I think that I clicked on all the links in the newsletters that I had not already seen/read. I don’t know why this is. ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/238 "2021-09-21T16:42:10Z")
> **[140th Birthday Tribute to Ludwig von Mises](http://georgereismansblog.blogspot.com/2021/09/140th-birthday-tribute-to-ludwig-von.html)** > > September 29, 2021 is the 140 th Birthday of Ludwig von Mises, the greatest economic defender of capitalism in the 20 th Century. Here is ... ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/239 "2021-09-22T00:47:48Z")
> **[A Chess Trailblazer Is Suing Netflix Over Her Portrayal In 'The Queen's Gambit'](https://www.npr.org/2021/09/18/1038442947/nona-gaprindashvili-netflix-lawsuit-chess-queens-gambit)** > > Georgian chess legend Nona Gaprindashvili is suing Netflix for defamation. At issue is a line in the show's final episode that falsely says she hadn't played against male opponents. ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:40am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/240 "2021-09-23T05:40:44Z")
[https://www.tiktok.com/@howtoadu/video/7006090271620451589](https://www.tiktok.com/@howtoadu/video/7006090271620451589) ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/241 "2021-09-23T06:10:30Z")
[https://www.tiktok.com/@therapyden/video/7010817445527080198](https://www.tiktok.com/@therapyden/video/7010817445527080198) [https://www.tiktok.com/@therapyden/video/7010818014492839173](https://www.tiktok.com/@therapyden/video/7010818014492839173) Better Help sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:59am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/elliot-shares-links-2021/132/242 "2021-09-23T07:59:06Z")
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