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Finished Part 1 - Simple Sentence Grammar, my remaining notes on part 1 of the article: ### Step 3 - Object or Complement

Action sentences can have a “direct object” which I will call the “object”. Linking sentences have a “subject complement” which I will call the “complement”.

  • Action sentences have a direct object.
  • Linking sentences have a subject complement.

The object is a noun which is acted on. In I threw a red ball., “ball” is the object. The ball receives the throwing action.

  • Object = noun which is acted on

The complement is a noun or adjective which is linked to. (Adjectives are explained in step 4.) In The house is very big., the complement is “big”. Bigness is the thing that the house is linked to.

The word “complement” is related to the word “complete”. It’s a completer. If you said “The house is”, that would be an incomplete thought.

  • Complements complete the thought.
  • Linking verbs are verbs that show the state of existence of something.
  • Linking verbs need to be linked to something. In “The house is” ‘house is’ needs to be linked to something.

What’s the difference between an object and a complement? Objects go with action verbs, they’re always nouns, and they’re sometimes optional. Complements go with linking verbs, they’re nouns or adjectives, and they’re always required.

  • Actions require things to act on. Objects. Though sometimes they can be implied and not be in the sentence.
    • Objects are always nouns.
  • Complements are always required. The link needs to be completed.
    • Complements can be nouns or adjectives.

Finding the object or complement is step three. Look to the right of the verb. Finding that there is no object is fine too.

Objects answer the question, “What is acted on?”. Complements answer “What is linked to?”.

The verb, subject and object (or complement) are the most important part of the sentence. Sometimes they’re the only words.

  • Step three is to find the Object or Complement. It should to the right of the verb. There should always be a complement. There doesn’t always have to be an object.
  • In English, to form a complete sentence you need an actor(subject), an action (verb), and a thing being acted on (object).

Step 4 - Modifiers

A modifier changes something by giving more information. It adds detail, e.g. that walking is fast or that a steak is big. Modifiers can tell you attributes or qualities of the thing they modify. Modifiers describe or limit what’s being talked about. (There are fewer “purple cars” than “cars”, so adding the modifier “purple” restricts the cars being discussed.)

  • A modifier changes something by giving more information about something. We can go from talking about cars in the sentence. “I like cars” to talking about a more specific type of car in “I like blue cars”.

Modifiers can be used with most things. The verb, subject and object (or complement) can be modified. Modifiers themselves can be modified, too.

  • What can’t be modified?

To understand a modifier, you must figure out what it modifies. In “John throws red balls.” you need to understand that “red” applies to “balls” not to “John”.

  • Modifiers modify something in specific not everything in a sentence.

There are two types of modifier. An adjective is a modifier for a noun, and an adverb is a modifier for anything else. The difference isn’t very important conceptually (they’re both modifiers, similar to how action verbs and linking verbs are both verbs).

  • I wonder why they’re called adverbs.
  • Adjectives only modify nouns.
  • Adverbs modify everything else.

Adjectives usually go left of their nouns, and several adjectives can be listed in a row. Example adjectives: beautiful, tall, thin, round, young, blue, plastic.

  • The big black cat.
  • The beautiful young woman.

Let’s consider adverb examples. “Quickly” is an adverb which tells you how an action verb was performed. In “dark red ball”, “dark” is an adverb that tells you the shade of red. In “is not”, “not” is an adverb which modifies the meaning of “is”. Many adverbs end with the letters “ly”. Adverbs can be at many different locations in sentences.

  • I guess depending on what is being modified certain words can either be considered adjectives or adverbs. on first read, and then checking on merriam-webster, dark is an adjective. If the sentence was “dark ball” dark would function as an adjective, but since dark is giving information about red its an adverb.

Finding modifiers, and figuring out what they modify, is step four for understanding a sentence. Each previous step involved only two possible questions. Modifiers answer a wide variety of questions. E.g.: “What type?”, “What size?”, “How much?”, “How many?”, “What material is it made of?”, “When?”, “Where?”, “To what degree?” or “In what manner was the action performed?”

Figuring out what question a modifier answers can be tricky even if you know what it means. An easy one is that “cold” answers “What temperature?”. A tricky one is that “cute” answers “How does it look and/or act?”. A reasonable person could write the question differently for “cute”.

  • Using the some of the above examples:
    • quickly answers how fast something was done
    • dark answers the question of what shade of red is the ball

Now we’re ready to comment on every word from our example sentences. In I threw a red ball., “red” and “a” are adjectives which modify “ball”. In The house is very big., “the” is an adjective modifying “house”, and “very” is an adverb modifying “big”.

Detail: “The”, “a” and “this” are examples of a type of adjective called a “determiner” which answers “Which one?”. If I say “cat”, people won’t know which cat I mean. If I say “a cat” then I mean an indefinite, unspecified cat, “the cat” means a definite, particular cat, and “this cat” means the cat near me.

Detail: Verbs can be modified by other verbs. Modifier verbs are called “helper” or “auxiliary” verbs, not adverbs. In “I will practice grammar.”, the verb “practice” is modified by the helper verb “will” which changes it from present tense to future tense.

  • From What Are Determiners? Definition and Examples | Grammarly
    • “A determiner, also known as a limiting adjective, is a word that appears before a noun, providing clarifying context about the number, definiteness, or ownership of the noun.”
    • “There are several common kinds of determiners, including articles, demonstrative determiners (or demonstrative adjectives), interrogative determiners (interrogative adjectives), possessive determiners (possessive adjectives), and quantifying determiners and numbers.”
    • “… determiners modify nouns by a subtractive process rather than the additive one descriptive adjectives use. In other words: Descriptive adjectives add detail to our understanding of the nouns they modify, while determiners narrow down the identity of a noun by introducing specificity.”
      • Hmmm but don’t adjectives limit. If you say “I like purple cars”. Purple is limiting the type of cars you like. I guess thats adding detail to car, not specificity?
      • Detail vs. specificity. Detail is information about something, specificity in this case refers to which of something your talking about. “I’d like a purple car” - i would like any car that is purple. “I’d like the purple car” I’d like the specific car that is purple.
  • From https://www.grammarly.com/blog/auxiliary-verbs/
    • “Auxiliary verbs are a type of verb that takes a supportive role in a sentence, second to the main verb. They’re used mainly to create complex grammatical tenses, like the perfect and continuous tenses, which show different aspects of time, or how long an action takes place.”
    • So does this mean that verbs that are considered auxiliary verbs cannot take take the place of the main verbs in sentences?
      • “The three main auxiliary verbs are be, do, and have. However, all three of these can also be used separately as action verbs. When you see one of these verbs, look for a second verb to determine if it’s being used as an action verb or an auxiliary verb.”

Prepositional Phrases

Prepositions are words like “with”, “to”, “in”, “about” and “of” which relate a noun to something else in the sentence. For example, prepositions can indicate location (“on the table”) or time (“before midnight”).

  • Prepositions state the relationship between a noun and something else in the sentence.

A preposition governs a noun which is normally located to the right of the preposition. Understanding the preposition requires finding its noun. “Governs” is a grammar word that basically means “has” or “uses”. A noun used with a preposition is never the subject, object or complement of the sentence. Each noun has one job in the sentence.

  • A preposition such as “with” has or uses the noun that is typically located to the right of the preposition.
  • So in, “He has the book with him”. The noun/pronoun “him” could not be the subject/object of the sentence.
  • Each noun can only do one thing in the sentence.

Prepositions express a relationship between a part of the sentence and some additional information. The additional information is always a noun plus any modifiers that the noun has. In “I set my phone on my desk.”, the preposition “on” tells us the relationship between the action “set” and the additional information “my desk”. (“My” is an adjective modifying “desk”.) The type of relationship is “on”, which tells us that the desk is the location for the setting action. The preposition “on” also indicates the top of the desk (not “in”, “under” or “beside” the desk, which are different prepositions than “on”).

  • These seem to be examples of positions. “on”, “in”, “under”, “beside”, is this where the position in preposition came from?

Prepositional Phrase Examples

Example full sentence analysis: John looks at stamps. Action verb: looks. Subject: John. Object: none. Preposition: at. Preposition’s noun: stamps. The prepositional phrase “at stamps” is an adverb modifying “looks”. It tells us what John is looking at.

  • Hmm on first glance I would have thought the object to be stamps, since that is what is being looked at it. I guess the preposition at changes that whole part of the sentence.

Simple Sentence Analysis Example

The man with dark brown hair excitedly threw a little rock at the target.

  • Step 1 - Verb
    • threw
  • Step 2 - Subject
    • man
  • Step 3 - Object/Complement
    • rock
  • Step 4 - Modifiers
    • the - determiner, modifies man
    • with - preposition, to its right is dark brown hair
    • dark and brown are modifying hair
    • hair - prepositional noun
    • “with dark brown hair” is modifying the man
    • excitedly - adverb, modifying threw
    • a - determiner modifying rock
    • little, adjective modifying rock
    • at - preposition, to its right is the target
    • the - determiner modifying target
    • target - prepositional noun
    • at the target is modifying threw? i’m a little unsure on this one. Hmm. What is at the target being related to? the rock right? so rock is being modified, but we’re not getting more information about the rock here, but more information about the throw, so threw. I’ll go with threw

Action verb: threw.

  • correct

Subject: man.

  • correct

Object: rock.

  • correct

“Excitedly” modifies “threw”.

  • correct

The first “the” modifies “man”.

  • correct
    “>A” modifies “rock”.
  • correct

“Little” modifies “rock”.

  • correct

Prepositional phrase: “with dark brown hair”. This functions as an adjective which modifies “man”. The preposition is “with” and it governs the noun “hair”. It relates hair and man by telling us that the man has hair. It also tells us the type of hair (dark brown).

  • mostly correct, didn’t say how the preposition functioned, it functions as an adjective here

“Brown” modifies “hair”.

  • correct

“Dark” modifies “brown”.

  • incorrect, woops. Yeah that makes sense the hair is being described as “dark brown” not “dark and brown”

Prepositional phrase: “at the target”. This functions as an adverb which modifies “threw”. The preposition is “at” and it governs the noun “target”. It relates throwing and the target by telling us that the throwing was directed towards the target.

  • ok so i got that correct, nice

The second “the” in the sentence modifies “target”.

  • correct

Conclusions: The sentence is about a man throwing a little rock. The throwing was excited. The man had dark brown hair. He threw the rock at the target.

  • This makes sense. I’ll do a conclusion next time.

Simple Sentence Patterns

I now present the two simple sentence patterns:

  • Subject + Action Verb + Object (noun or nothing)
  • Subject + Linking Verb + Complement (noun or adjective)
  • I kicked the ball.
  • The house is cheap.

Conclusion of Part 1

For each sentence you practice, follow the steps. Find the action or linking verb, then the subject, then the object or complement. Then find the modifiers and figure out what each one modifies. For prepositions, find their noun and figure out what the whole prepositional phrase modifies. Finally, after you understand the individual parts of the sentence, consider what the whole thing means.

  • Step 1 - Find the action or linking verb
  • Step 2 - Find the subject
  • Step 3 - Find the object/complement
  • Step 4 - Find the modifiers and what they are modifying
  • Step 5 - Figure out what the whole sentence means.

A good place to get sentences to practice on is a young adult novel . Books aimed at young people use simpler writing. Alternatively, get some grammar practice worksheets .

Should I do some practice with a young adult novel?

I’ll do the practice sentences tomorrow.

I use the New Oxford dictionary a lot, which is the built-in one Apple uses. It’s the same one you get if you Google search “define:example”. Merriam-Webster is fine too. OED is useful for obscure words.

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ok

Forgot to time but looking at the clock it took about an hour.

Steps I was using:

  • Step 1 - Find the action or linking verb
  • Step 2 - Find the subject
  • Step 3 - Find the object/complement
  • Step 4 - Find the modifiers and what they are modifying
  • Step 5 - Figure out what the whole sentence means.

Here are some sentences to get you started practicing:

  • John is wise.
    • 1 - is, linking verb
    • 2 - John, subject
    • 3 - wise, complement
    • 4 - no modifiers
    • 5 - John, in his current state of being, is wise.
  • John quickly drank milk.
    • 1 - drank, action verb
    • 2 - John, subject
    • 3 - milk, object
    • 4 - quickly modifies drank
    • 5 - The way John drank his milk was very fast.
  • John likes big, fast cars.
    • 1 - likes, action verb
    • 2 - John, subject
    • 3 - cars, object
    • 4 - big, fast, modifiers
      • big modifies car
      • fast modifies car
    • 5 - John likes the kind of cars that are both big and fast.
  • John went to the new store.
    • 1 - went, action verb
    • 2 - John, subject
    • 3 - no direct object
    • 4 - to the new store , prepositional phrase modifying went
      • to - preposition
      • the is modifying store
      • new is modifying store
      • store is the prepositional noun
    • 5 - John went to a store. The store was new. The store was the only(?) new one.
  • The ferocious dog chased three cats over the chair.
    • 1 - chased, action verb
    • 2 - dog, subject
    • 3 - cats, object
    • 4 - the, ferocious, three, over the chair
      • the modifies dog
      • ferocious modifies dog
      • three modifies cats
      • over the chair is a prepositional phrase modifying chased
        • over is the preposition
        • the is modifying chair
        • chair is the noun governed by over
    • 5 - There is a ferocious dog. The dog chased three cats. The dog chased the cats while going over the chair.
  • Clever John carefully ate the very juicy steak.
    • 1 - ate, action verb
    • 2 - John, subject
    • 3 - steak, object
    • 4 - clever, carefully, the, very, juicy
      • clever is an adjective modifying John
      • carefully is an adverb modifying ate
      • the is a determiner modifying steak
      • very is an adverb modifying juicy
      • juicy is an adjective modifying steak.
    • 5 - John is a clever person. John ate a steak carefully. The steak that he ate was very juicy.
  • John thought hard about chemistry.
    • 1 - thought, action verb
    • 2 - John, subject
    • 3 - no direct object
    • 4 - hard, about chemistry
      • hard is an adverb modifying thought
      • about chemistry is a prepositional phrase modifying thought
        • about is a preposition
        • chemistry is the noun governed by about
    • 5 - John thought about chemistry. The thinking was hard/involved a lot of effort.
  • John put the toy soldier in the compartment in the box on the shelf in his room.
    • 1 - put, action verb
    • 2 - John, subject
    • 3 - soldier? , object
    • 4 - the, toy, in the compartment, in the box, on the shelf, in his room
      • the is a determiner modifying soldier
      • toy is an adjective modifying soldier
      • in the compartment is a prepositional phrase modifying put
        • in is the preposition
        • the is a determiner modifying compartment
        • compartment is the noun governed by in
      • in the box is a prepositional phrase modifying compartment
        • in is the preposition
        • the is a determiner modifying box
        • box is the noun governed by in
      • on the shelf is a preposition modifying box
        • on is the preposition
        • the is a determiner modifying shelf
        • box is the noun governed by on
      • in his room is a preposition modifying shelf
        • in is the preposition
        • his is an adjective modifying room
        • room is the noun governed by in
    • 5 - John put away a soldier that was a toy. He put the toy in a compartment which was located in a box. The box was on a shelf. The shelf was in his room.
  • The delicious cake with berries unfortunately fell onto the dirty floor from the table.
    • 1 - fell, action verb
    • 2 - cake, subject
    • 3 - no object
    • 4 - the, delicious, with berries, unfortunately, onto the dirty floor, from the table.
      • the is a determiner modifying cake
      • delicious is an adjective modifying cake
      • with berries is a prepositional phrase acting as an adjective modifying cake
      • unfortunately is an adverb modifying fell
      • onto the dirty floor is a prepositional phrase modifying fell
        • onto is the preposition
        • the is a determiner modifying floor
        • dirty is an adjective modifying floor
        • floor is the noun governed by onto
      • from the table is a prepositional phrase modifying fell
        • from is the preposition
        • the is a determiner modifying table
        • table is the noun governed by from
    • 5 - There is a cake. The cake is delicious. The cake had berries on it. The cake fell. The cake fell from a table. The cake fell from the table onto a floor. The floor was dirty.

No, not all actions require an object that is acted on.

“I slept.” is a complete sentence with an action verb and no object. There isn’t an implied object.

Adjectives modify nouns. Adverbs are (New Oxford Dictionary):

a word or phrase that modifies or qualifies an adjective, verb, or other adverb or a word group, expressing a relation of place, time, circumstance, manner, cause, degree, etc. (e.g., gently, quite, then, there)

Maybe as you go through the article you can come up with something that doesn’t fit on that list.

Grammar stuff often has a bunch of fancy terminology and special cases, but a lot of it isn’t necessary.

Yeah “purple” restricts what cars you’re talking about. I wouldn’t worry too much about what that Grammarly article claimed. Just take the useful parts and move on. If you need more info, look at a variety of sources before going in depth on one (because the one might just be flawed). If you find the same issue in several sources, then it’s more likely to be important and worth analyzing more.

Grammarly themselves are well aware that modifiers other than determiners restrict meanings btw: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/using-that-and-which-is-all-about-restrictive-and-non-restrictive-clauses/ (I think this article is confusing; my point is just that it writes about restrictive clauses).

I think the concept of auxiliary verbs is wrong and I don’t like to teach it that way today (my grammar article is older so it has a single paragraph about them). It is possible to analyze using that (widespread, popular) framework and reach correct understandings of sentences, but I think it’s conceptually confused.

Yes. The things I call a “verb” can be called a “finite”, “main” or “independent” verb. You need at least one of those for a clause. If you call anything else a “verb”, it still can’t go in the (main) verb slots in clauses; it’s fundamentally different.

Another way this stuff is misleading is their opinion of which verbs are which is problematic. (But, if used consistently with many special rules/cases, it’s mostly compatible with understanding the meanings of sentences correctly.)

In “I will eat later.” the grammatically main verb is “will”. “I” is the subject of “will”. “Will” is the root of the sentence tree. Some other people will try to claim “will” is an auxiliary verb for forming future tense and that “eat” is the “main verb” here, but try learning it my way.

Before looking it up: I’d guess it’s pre + position because the preposition goes before the noun, so it’s a word in the pre(vious) position compared to the noun it works with.

New Oxford:

late Middle English: from Latin praepositio(n-), from the verb praeponere, from prae ‘before’ + ponere ‘to place’.

And preposition | Etymology of preposition by etymonline

I think I got it.

There are two nouns. The subject and prepositional object are required. Therefore there can’t be an object in the sentence. (This as usual ignores some special cases; it’s hard to make absolute statements about English that work 100% of the time.)


@LMD (I’ll sometimes tag you for posts with potentially relevant stuff. In the future I may tag with no stated explanation.)

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If you do a forum search you can find some other people’s solutions for the practice sentences from the article.

Yes. I checked this one because I remember someone getting really confused about it.

Status updates for Baba Is You and daily writing?

Baba is You:

Spent 39 hours and 12 minutes on the main game. I’ve beaten 140 levels. I’ve fully cleared 5 areas and beat the minimum for 8 areas.

The game has two other level packs available from the get go. Museum and New Adventures. Museum is a “… showcase of old and/or unused content.” (typed out from the game). New Adventures consists of a bunch of actually new levels and concepts. I’ve beaten 10 more levels on Museum and 4 on New Adventures (I’ve avoided this one a lot more to not get spoiled, they do warn you to avoid it if you haven’t beaten the base game).

So I’ve beaten so far 155 levels over ~40 hours.

Daily Writing:

Daily Writing has been going well. Looking at my notes app and habit app, it looks like I missed 4 days from July 21st to July 24th. Hmmm. Ok I see what probably happened. Looking through the CF tutoring thread plus trying to remember those days. On the 24th I just woke up late, went to work, came home, went for a walk, and went to bed. I think I wanted to get up early that day and I failed at it and then I ended up sleeping in more. The other 3 days I think I focused on doing philosophy first and then doing my writing for the day. Looking at the thread I could count myself doing writing on some of those days as the assignments I did during that time involved writing.

Currently what I do for writing is to do it as one of my first things of the day. I use the app/website https://readwise.io/ to review book highlights daily. I go through the highlights and any highlight I feel like thinking on a bit more I copy and paste into my notes app and go through them all at once and write for 15 minutes. If there’s time left-over or if no highlights interest me I’ll just do some random writing prompts.

Out of the whole month of July I missed 5 days.

EDIT:

Oh yeah, I also do keep a journal. I’d say I’m on/off about writing in it. As long as I’m not too tired I’ll write in it. I had a two week streak and then missed a week, picked it back up a few days ago.

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Here’s some writing to share:
I took notes on the Procrastination article as part of my writing, Procrastination - #13 by Eternity.
I felt like making a post in the article would be better than just sharing it here.

Also this (an example of what I do with readwise):

“If we don’t use any “labels”—which means: if we never identify the nature of different political systems we will not discover that we are accepting statism, or notice how that switch is pulled on us.” - The Ayn Rand Column
- What is a label of someones thoughts? It is an integration of someones thoughts. People who hate labels are people who desire to have their thoughts stay disintegrated.

Great. How is it going in terms of problem solving, finding patterns, understanding concepts, etc?

Hmmm. I took the advice you gave to break the level into parts. That’s helped a lot. I noticed myself getting better at not getting stuck on a certain thought pattern. Initially I would get stuck on a thought process on how to beat the level and trying to make the idea work. I’ve gotten a lot better at trying a new idea and not getting stuck on trying the same thing repeatedly. Though I have also gotten better at making my ideas work. For certain levels I can come up with an idea for a solution and then fix my method so the general idea still works.

Hmmm. I would say I subconsciously understand some patterns I think. Maybe that’s something I could work on more. I do know that certain areas show certain kinds of text more so that plays a part in understanding and using some patterns.

My understanding of the concepts is good I feel (except for how “empty” works in some situations, its interactions confuse me). I’ve gotten a lot better at focusing on what the text is saying instead of making assumptions on some of the games entities.

Great. You may find it more challenging soon (though I think you still have a group of easier levels coming up too) which may push you to use explicit methods more or to try more different methods to get unstuck.

Do you think you could ask @LMD some questions about his experience with Baba Is You and give him some tips? Does that sound fine or hard? If it sounds bad or you intuitively don’t want to do it, then don’t try it.

There are lots of common ways labels are misused so don’t be too harsh about it. Some of the opposition to labels comes from people seeing real problems with actual (not ideal) usage of labels.

Maybe you can think of some examples of bad uses of labels in political discourse.

That doesn’t sound hard/bad. It sounds fine. I don’t know how well I would do with giving tips about the game, but I’m not averse to it. Plus, it may help me think about the game more and make me think about certain things more explicitly.

In general, I’m open to, and like, helping out people with tips and stuff. I guess the only bit of aversion I find myself having is that I have a feeling of needing to give amazing tips and super-helpful advice almost like I’m tutoring them. I think thats in part because this came up in the context of the tutoring threads and in part because I feel a need to do higher quality stuff on the CF forum in general.I do understand that is not what you are asking me to do. I think I’m comfortable just talking about the game and some tips.

Hmm. I remember you made a thread?/topic? (whats the term I’m looking for) for student discussions. Should I use that?

Do you think I give amazing tips and super-helpful advice?

Both terms are correct. “Topic” is the term used by Discourse. Yeah you can use that topic.

Hmmm. Now that I think about it. I don’t know? I You’re very knowledgeable and I think you’re very smart. I do think you give good advice. Mmm. I think for tips and advice to be “amazing” and “super-helpful” they need to be a bit more personalized. Some of the tips that have been shared I think have been basic/general tips (not that every tip shared has to be personalized). Hmm. I’m noticing that this is kind of hard for me to think about and write. I think in my head its either super helpful advice/amazing tips or useless advice/worthless tips. I don’t think anything you’ve said so far is useless/worthless. Some of the tips are just good and helpful. In acknowledging that some things may not be amazing or super helpful, I feel like I’m calling you useless/worthless which I don’t want to say.

Kk.

Thats fair. I have heard of labels being misused and stuff, though I’ve personally never experienced it. In the context of what I was writing I was trying to understand what Rand was talking about when it came to using labels. I guess she was talking about ideal usages of labels. I’ll look out for some bad use of labels. I haven’t followed politics in any meaningful manner for a while now so I forgot that people did have legitimate issues with how labels were being used.

Detail: Verbs can be modified by other verbs. Modifier verbs are called “helper” or “auxiliary” verbs, not adverbs. In “I will practice grammar.”, the verb “practice” is modified by the helper verb “will” which changes it from present tense to future tense.

If I’m understanding correctly: you have issues with the auxiliary verb concept (always? or more so nowadays?).

So in “I will eat later” you’re saying that “will” is the main verb and it is modified by eat?

Then in the example given in the article “I will practice grammar.” , you would now consider will the main verb modified by practice? Though I guess you never say what is the main verb there.