# Immigration; Asmongold; Politics **URL:** https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/immigration-asmongold-politics/2217 **Category:** Other **Tags:** politics **Created:** [May 20, 2026, 5:10am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/immigration-asmongold-politics/2217 "2026-05-20T05:10:16Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 4
### Author: ![anonymous45](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@anonymous45](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/anonymous45) #### Post date: [May 20, 2026, 6:23am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/immigration-asmongold-politics/2217/4 "2026-05-20T06:23:33Z")
> [@anonymous105](#): > > Would you say this is a very representative/important example of why your view of Trump has changed? Or more just a kinda random topical example due to it just happening? It’s topical but also I think it’s indicative of trump being like just another politician, ie playing political games regardless of principles, lying in campaign promises (like is this draining the swamp?), self-serving, etc. > [@anonymous105](#): > > I listed a bunch of issues in the other thread and the only one you weren’t aware of was Trump wanting to execute his political opponents. > > Do you feel like any of the issues I mentioned are a big problem to you, or nah? > [@Controversial Asides](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/controversial-asides/2215/5): > > suspension of due process, disregarding the Constitution and the rule of law, executing political opposition, illegal taxation, and a huge list of other authoritarian abuses. Yeah those are all, in principle, an issue for me. Executing political opposition was the most egregious. The others I don’t know for sure but have to guess (guesses: deportations and related, maybe search and seizure related to ICE but not sure, the death penalty for sedition tweets, maybe tariffs?) Partly I didn’t ask specifically about the others because I don’t know that much about specific legal things. In general I think governments should obey the law (obviously). Also issues like around ICE/deportations are murkier. In general I think governments have the responsibility to maintain border integrity and active in the service of their citizens, and if they allow in huge numbers of illegal migrants (also a problem in europe) then eventually things will come to a head. In Scotland a handful of foreign citizens were just elected for example, at least one of whom doesn’t even have a long-term visa. That’s insane to me. So in part my views on those kinds of things in the US are clouded by my opinions on situations elsewhere. I think if you’re an illegal immigrant and the government says they want illegal immigrants out, then you should leave (I mean in general I don’t think you should stay in countries illegally; you’re a guest, after all). I think the sensible path, which is drop immigration, protect borders, and deport illegals in an orderly considered fashion, is being advocated by almost no one which is a problem. I also think there is a kind of gambit being played where parties will drive legal/social infrastructure into the ground if it means a ‘favorable’ outcome (eg make due process so long and expensive that it is impractical to deport large numbers of people), and this is basically happening everywhere and no one in power is trying to stop it. It’s not even clear to me that it can be stopped if the problems get too big. So, from a distance, there’s half a feeling of ‘well at least someones trying something’; does that make sense? I’d probably feel differently if I saw it up close. --- _[View the full topic](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/immigration-asmongold-politics/2217)._