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[JustinCEO]

Gaslighting discussion (split from: Justin’s Miscellaneous Posts).

@anonymous5

@JustinCEO

Looking for Social Meanness & Gaslighting - Part 1

You’re not discussing in a reasonable way. When pushed, you zoomed out a meta level or two but you still didn’t go big enough picture and consider basic, overall questions like what is a reasonable plan for you to do next. Instead, you jumped into a bad plan because you found it adequately non-threatening and thought it’d make you look like you were a reasonable person making a good-faith effort.

You’re avoiding the higher levels of the discussion tree (you’re also avoiding using tree diagrams). Which is the same kind of thing as Curiosity – Question-Ignoring Discussion Pattern which was discussed earlier. In that pattern, people talk at a more detailed, zoomed in or lower level. It’s hard to get people to zoom out and deal with high level issues – which is why replying at one level below what was just said is a common response – and you continue to resist the appropriate next step: organized consideration of the big picture.

I think I’m not avoiding higher levels of the discussion tree so much as I’m not really sure what they even are in this anonymous’s conception, even at a very very rough, general level. Would “what is a reasonable plan for you to do next” be in the discussion tree, or was that just a general meta question being raised? Does a discussion tree always potentially include a bunch of standard meta questions, but they’re normally “invisible” (like all the zeros after the decimal in a whole number) unless you need to bring them into the discussion? I think my idea of what a discussion tree is is more bound to the specifics of a particular discussion.

For now, unless I’m asked to stop, I’ll plan on continuing to post my thoughts about problems I’m having approaching this discussion.