# MC does subconscious analysis **URL:** \ **Category:** Friendly\ **Created:** [April 12, 2023, 8:37am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/mc-does-subconscious-analysis/1765 "2023-04-12T08:37:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![MetaCreation](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/metacreation/32/2670_2.png) [@MetaCreation](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/MetaCreation)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 8:57am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/mc-does-subconscious-analysis/1765/6 "2023-04-17T08:57:36Z")
> [@anonymous83](#): > > > [@MetaCreation](#): > > > > I’ve been mentioning subconscious thoughts and conflicts on and off for a few weeks now. Not thoughts I necessarily agreed with, but just going through my understanding of my subconscious and sometimes how I argued with it and disagreed with it. > > You clearly self-identify with your conscious mind. You don’t recognize that your subconscious is also you – in fact it’s _most_ of you. When you other your subconscious, it gets in the way of analysis. I disagree. I don’t attempt to evade ownership of my subconscious thoughts. I don’t try to claim they’re someone else or that they’re not my responsibility. > [@anonymous83](#): > > > [@MetaCreation](#): > > > > Unless I actually agree with my intuitions I don’t think it’s good to reply to someone else’s post with them because it’s a largely irrelevant tangent. > > When you disagree with stuff, that isn’t a largely irrelevant tangent. You’re delegitimizing and dismissing parts of yourself (rather than e.g. analyzing). This is contrary to CF’s ideas about resolving conflicts of ideas and viewing both conscious and subconscious ideas as your ideas. I think you’ve badly misunderstood me here. I don’t think you paid attention to what I said. I said “Unless I actually agree with my intuitions” and I don’t think you integrated that into your response. This is very important context that you seem to have dropped. I am not in any way denying ownership of my intuitions. I’m saying I’m not going to criticise someone else unless I have a criticism that _I do not have internal conflicts about_. That’s not to say I wont go back to them later after I’ve analysed my intuition and worked out if I agree or disagree with it. I just want to do the work of analysing it first and resolving my internal conflicts without posting in someone else’s topic. I think it’s a respectful way of using a forum, as doing this analysis in someone else’s topic can be confusing to the OP and other readers. I don’t generally want to criticise someone unless I’m first unconflicted about it. > [@anonymous83](#): > > > [@MetaCreation](#): > > > > I was a bit uncomfortably in hindsight looking at the way I had brought them up. > > You (your conscious mind) often think your subconscious is wrong (which is a conclusion you assume before resolving the disagreement via rational, conclusive debate), and you want to hide and disown lots of your subconscious. I agree that I often think my subconscious is wrong. I’ve previously admitted to that and mentioned one of my methods to rectify it in a conversation with you. > [@MetaCreation's Negative Intuitions (was: Help me find the best CF articles)](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/metacreations-negative-intuitions-was-help-me-find-the-best-cf-articles/1768/3): > > > [@MetaCreation's Negative Intuitions (was: Help me find the best CF articles)](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/metacreations-negative-intuitions-was-help-me-find-the-best-cf-articles/1768/2): > > > > Your brainstorming shows a bias towards assuming you’re right or good, and failing to consider scenarios where ET is right or good. > > Good point. I took the first approach of trying to work out _why my intuition thinks it’s right_. Consciously I think I’m often dismissive of my intuitions, so I was trying to respond to it more positively and understand it better. I guess I ended up too focused on that. > > This specific intuition is (and I think some others like it are) very sensitive to criticism and it’s much harder to access them if I’m not being friendly to them. I think I should at least try _some_ more critical interpretations of them in situations like this; maybe try some friendly interpretations then one or two critical interpretations - kind of like trying to show my intuition goodwill in advance. I’ve shown that I’m self-aware that I treat it badly and shown that I’m actively working to communicate with it better. It’s something that I may be very bad at currently, but I think you’re also very badly misunderstanding me with these claims. > [@anonymous83](#): > > You’re uncomfortable presenting yourself as the kind of person you actually are. I’m uncomfortable with _who I am_. I have a lot of internal conflicts that I have not resolved. I don’t know _how_ to present myself as the kind of person I actually am. > [@anonymous83](#): > > > MC does subconscious analysis > > Contrary to the title and your framing, this topic is about your resistance to doing subconscious analysis, your disagreement with CF’s perspective (but with no quotes of CF material and explicit criticisms) I have resistance to doing subconscious analysis. This seems like a typical problem to have when trying to do subconscious analysis. I don’t think this is contrary to my framing. I don’t think I’ve hidden that I have resistance to it as I’ve talked about my difficulty in communicating well with my subconscious. I don’t think I can usefully guess about what disagreement you think I have with CF’s perspective. I don’t know what you mean by that and don’t know where to start. It may be in an area of CF that I have no knowledge of at all. The subject of not taking ownership of my intuitions is a frequently repeated point in your post. I may be writing about them in a way that is confusing, which may be why you have drawn that conclusion. I think it is not uncommon for people to evade ownership of the ideas they have which they dislike, you may have assumed that I’m doing it for that reason. Is there another way to write about intuitions that you would not interpret as me othering my intuition or denying ownership of them? I can’t think of one. I think it’s important to be clear when I’m talking about intuitions which I have conflict with and I don’t fully understand that I’m uncertain or ambivalent, and that it’s not the whole of me drawing that conclusion but part of me. If I don’t have conflicts with an intuition I don’t think I would reference them at all; I’d just say what I think without added qualifiers. --- _[View the full topic](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/mc-does-subconscious-analysis/1765)._