# What Kind of World Do We Live In?

**URL:** <https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714>\
**Category:** Unbounded\
**Created:** [February 11, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714 "2023-02-11T05:03:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/121 "2025-01-05T20:28:33Z")

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[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c13954ad0d8e9be871ae3ec2f6dcbb185a725701.jpeg "don't measure your value in your appearance. you're so much more than that...") ](https://www.tiktok.com/@lainiedawn/video/7453885917325954310)

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/122 "2025-01-16T18:58:24Z")

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[https://hindenburgresearch.com/gratitude/](https://hindenburgresearch.com/gratitude/)

Hindenburg Research is shutting down ☹

What they did was mostly research companies committing crimes like fraud, release public reports and short sell those companies. They’ve also submitted whistle blower reports to the government. They were helping provide the capitalist rule of law.

Notably, the company only existed because a lawyer they couldn’t afford helped them early on. Otherwise they wouldn’t have been able to deal with 3 early lawsuits. If you point out that companies are breaking laws, _they will sue **you** _, and it will be hard for you to survive those bad faith lawsuits.

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 7:38pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/123 "2025-01-16T19:38:45Z")

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[](https://www.tiktok.com/@skyfisherforskyfish/video/7457080097753926955)

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/124 "2025-01-27T17:17:54Z")

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[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/c778745f2a4c8470f443d76cd7610f27e47640a0.jpeg "#csa #csaawareness #believethem #believethem") ](https://www.tiktok.com/@phoenix.untaped/video/7464484621078711598)

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 3:33am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/125 "2025-02-02T03:33:16Z")

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[](https://www.tiktok.com/@rebmasel/video/7465910180488776990)

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/126 "2025-03-26T18:44:43Z")

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[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/36a01744998ba2884713cd2036b0e5ed69b4bebb.jpeg "#atheist #agnostic #nononsensespirituality") ](https://www.tiktok.com/@nononsensespirituality/video/7480583248368717098)

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**Author:** ![anonymous104](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonymous104](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/anonymous104)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 4:35am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/127 "2025-04-06T04:35:06Z")

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[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3aef430c7cfe937b785ac02658b50d670272488e.jpeg "Exposing the Laziest Content Thief on YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-w62lykunI)

This is a detailed video exposing a plagiarist. It does comparisons between creator’s video and the plagiarist’s video. It also shows two other creators that the same guy also plagiarized. It talks about how he previously plagiarized aggressively enough to be copyright striked. It talks about how he targets smaller channels he thinks he can bully, but doesn’t do this to larger channels. It talks about how it’s OK to build on someone else’s idea and add new stuff, but not to just copy the same idea, copy their script, and not add any improvements. It talks about how this kind of behavior can make a lot of money: it lets you make videos a lot faster and they can get enough views to bring in thousands of dollars. It talks about how plagiarism makes bad videos: to avoid more copyright strikes, he started making some changes such as leaving out a few parts of the script he thought weren’t necessary, which were explanations that were actually pretty important for things to make sense.

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/128 "2025-04-18T02:40:04Z")

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[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/c/cf0b20f92722eba54d93c4189996541cf2a85181.jpeg "Buying a house in 2001 at 21 years old. What lead to the 2008 recession....") ](https://www.tiktok.com/@mc_amber_/video/7493683494867062047)

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/129 "2025-04-26T00:06:44Z")

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[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a91b76605309d33adb4caefe21148e6519cb3c0d.png "6 ways you never realized your phone was tracking you #privacy #tech #explained...") ](https://www.tiktok.com/@m0stlysapien/video/7495623233400589611)

(I didn’t fact check this.)

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/130 "2025-04-26T00:12:15Z")

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[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5d1f3e97bd42d9ed3e3cd290871ce9f2159a4f0f.jpeg "your life has a cost #usa #america #American #unitedstates #estadosunidos...") ](https://www.tiktok.com/@snarkcuckerberg/video/7496548635589496082)

I didn’t fact check this. If you know anything about it, please share.

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/131 "2025-05-07T15:54:36Z")

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10 posts were split to a new topic: [Autism](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/autism/2055)

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**Author:** ![LMD](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/lmd/32/3213_2.png) [@LMD](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/LMD)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/132 "2025-04-27T02:04:55Z")

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I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the camera wasn’t being used. That seems like a really inconvenient form of data. I didn’t actually think that cameras were being used before though.

Microphones though, I’d be surprised. My phone is listening out for me to say “hi siri”. So there is some kind of keyword listening going on. Listening out for other keywords at all times doesn’t seem that implausible to me. It doesn’t have to be literally recording everything to then be processed later. Does it make sense for Apple to be allowing other apps and websites to listen to me? I don’t know, it doesn’t seem like it. But maybe?

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/135 "2025-04-27T19:02:08Z")

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[![](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/0fc810dc0adbbf03cd9c2a2a2f7d969c49e27ae5.jpeg "This guy's story made me cry so hard.He deserves so much love#fyp #jubilee...") ](https://www.tiktok.com/@secretsunveiled0/video/7497251824785788182)

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**Author:** ![ActiveMind](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/activemind/32/5560_2.png) [@ActiveMind](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/ActiveMind)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/137 "2025-04-27T20:11:01Z")

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I wasn’t surprised that this sort of tracking was going on. I’m concerned about this stuff and read a book which was partially about how they could correlate stuff and figuring things out with machine learning and AI. I suspect that LLMs are at a level where companies can ask them to analyze data like long texts which would be too time consuming for humans.

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> Listening out for other keywords at all times doesn’t seem that implausible to me.

Listening to keywords seems plausible to me. They can record like 5 seconds of time, log any keywords and then discard it. I don’t think they would store the audio which would take too much space.

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**Author:** ![ActiveMind](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/activemind/32/5560_2.png) [@ActiveMind](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/ActiveMind)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/140 "2025-04-27T20:38:21Z")

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I find it very impressive how he recovered from such a horrible and unjust childhood.

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**Author:** ![ActiveMind](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/activemind/32/5560_2.png) [@ActiveMind](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/ActiveMind)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/141 "2025-04-27T20:53:22Z")

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I would read book on what kinds of societies creates what kinds of gods/religions. Recommendations would be appreciated.

I think there would also be causation the other way, so what kinds of religious ideas a society holds will impact how the society works. There are direct ways that happens but there should also be subtle, important and surprising ways too.

Peikoff’s _The DIM Hypothesis_ analyzes the effects ideas have on society. I only listened to it in the background but I liked it. I like history with lots of philosophical interpretation. I’m reading _The Greek Way_ by Edith Hamilton in which I particularly like the first couple of chapters for this reason.

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**Author:** ![Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/elliot/32/14_2.png) [@Elliot](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/Elliot)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/142 "2025-04-27T21:14:25Z")

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Yes. And using Islam! Religions aren’t all bad! And we don’t need perfect tools to make progress!

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/143 "2025-04-27T21:18:03Z")

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> [@ActiveMind](#):
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> I like history with lots of philosophical interpretation. I’m reading _The Greek Way_ by Edith Hamilton in which I particularly like the first couple of chapters for this reason.

I think I read that. I really enjoyed her book titled _Mythology_ and I’d be interested in recommendations for other good mythology books (particularly Greek but a variety of other types are fine too). I read some _One Thousand and One Arabian Nights_ which was OK. See also [Curiosity – Popper Ignores Hamilton](https://curi.us/2281-popper-ignores-hamilton)

It’s not exactly the same but I recommend this if you haven’t read it [Amazon.com: The World of Parmenides: Essays on the Presocratic Enlightenment: 9780415237307: Karl Popper, Arne F. Peterson, Jorgen Mejer: Books](https://www.amazon.com/World-Parmenides-Essays-Presocratic-Enlightenment/dp/0415237300)

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**Author:** ![ActiveMind](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/user_avatar/discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/activemind/32/5560_2.png) [@ActiveMind](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/u/ActiveMind)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 9:37pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/144 "2025-04-27T21:37:46Z")

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> [@Elliot](#):
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> See also [Curiosity – Popper Ignores Hamilton](https://curi.us/2281-popper-ignores-hamilton)

That blog post is the reason why I found her book. I’ve also read _Greek Ways_ because of that blog. I also liked that book.

I’ve read lots of your blog posts. When I was lurking I would sometimes habitually scroll your list of posts to find interesting things. I’ve also read stuff multiple times.

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> I really enjoyed her book titled _Mythology_

I have that one too. I started reading that and the _The Iliad_ but stopped for some reason.

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> It’s not exactly the same but I recommend this if you haven’t read it [Amazon.com: The World of Parmenides: Essays on the Presocratic Enlightenment: 9780415237307: Karl Popper, Arne F. Peterson, Jorgen Mejer: Books](https://www.amazon.com/World-Parmenides-Essays-Presocratic-Enlightenment/dp/0415237300)

I bought it recently. I’ve read your recommended chapters in _Conjectures and Refutations_. I would’ve read more Popper stuff if already if I didn’t have the mindset that I should comment on things and post them here. I also would’ve read more of your CF articles in my lurking period for the same reason. Eventually I read almost everything by Rand before I joined the forum though.

I think it’s still holding me back that I think I have to do heavy analysis the first time I read important philosophy stuff. Perhaps I should just read things one time without doing analysis if I feel like it.

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> I read some _One Thousand and One Arabian Nights_ which was OK.

A long term project of mine is to read high level stuff of every major culture in history. I’m particularly interesting in knowing the ideas of cultures so I would read stuff like _One Thousand and One Arabian Nights_.

Do you have good world history books recommendations? [Peikoff’s recommendations](https://peikoff.com/historyreadinglist/) are hard to get and expensive. I’ll read the W.W. Norton publication, _Western Civilizations_ at least. I would like some rest of the world stuff too.

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://discuss.criticalfallibilism.com/t/what-kind-of-world-do-we-live-in/1714/145 "2025-04-27T21:47:32Z")

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> [@ActiveMind](#):
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> I think it’s still holding me back that I think I have to do heavy analysis the first time I read important philosophy stuff. Perhaps I should just read things one time without doing analysis if I feel like it.

My general mindset is that high quantity is good if the quality is enough for making progress. That’s better than trying to get progress from low quantity using super high quality, which is too hard and paralyzing.

I’ve done tons of speed reading without trying to do a lot of analysis or writing. Books can be reread if important. Or sometimes I am rereading. Do a lot of what’s easy and you can and will do lots of. If you want to do some higher effort activities – and there are certainly good reasons to do some of that – don’t stop doing the easier stuff too.

This is related to my attitude to writing. I’d usually rather write about a topic multiple times than do a lot of editing. I think it’s better practice and actually works better. I’ve written a lot of essays and discussion messages and the quality of my fast, easy writing has improved every year. I think a lot of beginners write something bad then spend a lot of time trying to fix it with editing. I like to have something that’s already pretty good before I edit it, and I don’t edit the majority of my writing.

In life, we have to think about lots of things. We don’t have time to go in depth on most of them. So that’s a reason to want good first drafts, not rely on heavy editing.

First drafts with lots of errors indicate thinking errors. I think it’s important to make fewer errors and try to solve some of those problems so they don’t keep reoccurring, not just try to fix the errors in editing then make them again next time you write.

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