In a Reddit thread where the OP was complaining about how the ethics folks only criticize & never propose solutions, one ally accused him of not having actually read the literature where they propose solutions. I LOLed & asked for just one example but got nothing.
I see examples like this regularly.
I think it’s important to have a good sense of what the world is like, e.g. that people often make claims – including factual claims about literature they claim they read and you didn’t – that they cannot and will not back up with actual sources or examples.
And that isn’t just some idiots on reddit. You can’t get the “top people” in fields like AI Ethics or many others to actually engage in halfway reasonable debate or scholarship.