@Eternity I challenge you to beat my A times (regular not full clear). These times are from replaying levels, not first clear times. The first two are better than that but still very beatable without advanced strategies.
All times over an hour are from leaving the game running. The timer doesn’t pause on the pause screen.
Also here are my current death counts. You can post screenshots sometimes to track your progress over time.
Celeste speedrunner keybinds (includes both keyboard and controller):
So here are my first set of times:
Well kinda. I think my clear time on Forsaken City was around 3 minutes (probably from when I got the golden). 2:20 is from my first attempt at trying to speedrun it after seeing your post.
After my first attempt, I went through it slowly and tried to come up with strats in each room to go through it faster. I got my current best time in around 10 or so tries.
I’d suggest doing 1 run per level for 2a-8a. That should be enough for significant improvements. Then see what your results are and reevaluate what to do next.
I got a time of 3:53 for 2a with 4 deaths.
I beat 2a in 3:23. Did it deathless too. I think I’m going to try for the golden soon, shouldn’t be hard. Just been busy. Also why I haven’t attempted doing the other stages/levels in order and just re-did 2a. It feels short and I know its short.
I speedran 2a until I got a deathless speedrun, then got the golden after that (in the same play session, right after). I’ve played the other levels more too, but I still find levels 1 and 2 a lot easier than the rest for avoiding dying. I haven’t gone for other goldens yet, just 1a, 2a and 1a dashless (which is hard in some ways, but you can die all you want, so I found it interesting like a puzzle). I also did get the last two regular red strawberries which were easy now that my skill level is higher.
Decided to try out Celeste on my PC again and also to go ahead and try keyboard controls.
I used Isaactayy’s bind. It was just the first one so I just went ahead with that.
I beat 1a in about 35 minutes (about because my time is way higher cause I left the game running, I remember leaving it running around 30 minutes and then beat it in about 5), got 18/20 Strawberries, and the crystal heart. I beat it in 59 deaths. Most of my deaths were just me trying to get comfortable with the controls. It feels weird pressing two buttons to aim my dash as opposed to just moving my analog controller.
I think I’m going to a do mix of playing one Celeste profile with keyboard while practicing speedrunning on my other profile (and beating farewell and all that).
I did notice after coming back a hour later being more comfortable with keyboard.
The questionable part of his binds, IMO, is grab on shift. If you try it and like it, then it’s fine. But if you don’t like it, you should also try grab on Space or on a key like J, K, or L. Where you find it comfortable to have grab is somewhat of a personal preference. I’m using grab on J personally and space sounds better than shift to me, but whatever you’re comfortable with is fine. But if you hate it, try another grab key instead of forcing yourself to get used to it. By comparison, with WASD, if you didn’t like it, changing keybinds wouldn’t really help because you’d just replace it with something similar.
I played a bit more today and I think I like using left shift. Though, tbh, its probably my mind just used to it right now. I don’t hate it, so I think I’ll stick with it for now while I play with keyboard. I got the rest of Strawberries for 1a and experimented with trying to wavedash and wall bouncing.
It does feel more consistent than playing with controller.
I’m skipping 3a for now because I don’t find it too fun.
I went ahead and did 4a and got a time of 8:23.
Did 5a in 19:44. Could be much much better. Died a lot and forgot the pathing for the keys and stuff.
Skipped 6a and went to 7a. Don’t hate 6a, just remember enjoying 7a more. It went pretty bad.
Did it in 39:13 with a lot of deaths. I definitely need more practice and I have gotten a bit rusty at certain aspects of the game. I also am not too comfortable playing on my PC. Mainly because of the resolution. That’s one thing I really liked about playing on my steam deck. The small screen. Easier to take everything in. Even playing on the lowest window size it was sometimes hard for me to take in everything on the screen.
I’ve been playing Celeste on a 27" screen in fullscreen mode. It’s fine IMO. You just have to get used to it and not have your monitor too close to you. I did stick to 24" for a lot of my gaming for a long time; I don’t think 27" is better but it’s OK. I’ve played on a much smaller laptop screen which was fine too but I didn’t find it particularly better or worse for Celeste.
You saved over 50 minutes! Huge PB! Just do the other levels once each and watch your total time come way down from 7h!
~yeah
i should’ve been more clear, i just have a general issue playing with bigger resolutions. idk, its less of an issue when im not tired, but when i am it feels like a lot of stuff on screen to process.
kinda related: the few times i played smash with friends if we both choose the same character i will lose track of mine all the time
Did 3a in 15:48
Did 6a in 17:18
all i have left is 8a
Did 8a in 19:39
all my times:
]thats neat. i went from doing it in 7 hours to almost 2.
my times are messed up a little cause of the sync from steam deck to pc.
my forsaken city time is 1:47. ill probably redo it soon.
only time of yours that i have left to beat is summit. im going to try that soon and then probably practice some rooms in some maps individually. maybe try and golden some maps to learn about them better?
Great. Here are some new times to compete with. Try to beat the total time rather than worrying about individual levels. I think more goldens are still a ways off (except 1a dashless, which you can do if you want since it gives unlimited retries. and 2a golden is ok if you didn’t do that yet).
I don’t think you’re good enough yet that you should practice individual rooms with one exception: search skip. Search skip is jumping left on this screen instead of getting 2 keys and taking the red ball. It’s not that hard and is a big skip. I figured out how to do it without looking up the details, just knowing you can do a skip here that’s not super hard or complicated and having heard of a lot of celeste movement tech in general. I’d suggest trying it a bit yourself but feel free to look up hints or solutions if you can’t figure it out.
In general, if you just play through levels you’ll get extra practice on whatever rooms you’re worst at because you’ll die and retry on them the most. Also I haven’t used savestates yet. You can use them and practice some individual parts if you want, but I don’t think it’s necessary yet, and I’d say not to spend a long time on it yet, but if your intuition says to do it then feel free to do some, I don’t want to stop you.
In general I’d say to play the level you think you have the worst time on where you can most easily get the largest time saves. Repeat until your total time beats mine.
PS you may want to share a death count screenshot too so you can see your progress on that over time. Also death count gives you a good idea of which levels you can most easily save time on. The more deaths, the easier time save is. You just keep replaying it and screwing up less and you save a lot of time. Once you get low deaths on a level, time save on that level gets harder, since you have to actually use faster strategies in rooms instead of just dying less. So a simple approach is just play whatever level you have the highest death count on, and repeat until you beat my total time (I know some levels are longer than others, so it’s not a totally fair comparison and is biased towards playing summit extra, but it’ll still work ok, but feel free to adjust it and do whatever level you feel you performed worst on if you end up spamming summit too much).
