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Yeah the long ones did take longer than the short/medium ones. One thing I noticed was that I was strongly tending to structure my long paraphrase like the original, and my intuition says that’s bad and that I should be trying harder to have a more original structure. That could be something that slowed me down a lot? I think I agonised over that a lot. (I notice that despite doing that I don’t think I often ended up with a very original structure anyway.) I think part of why I’m doing that is because i think I should be trying to avoid just memorising the paragraph as I read, and rather be trying to understanding it conceptually or more broadly; trying to create my own picture in my head of what is happening in the paragraph, such that I can talk about it myself. If I’m tempted to paraphrase with a similar structure, I take it as a clue that I’m trying learning it by rote, and I think I need to be on guard against that? Maybe though I’m just making it harder for myself. Some things do occur in sequence, and it makes sense to have some of the paragraph structure the same. I could relax that concern with mirroring the paragraph structure. Do you see a problem there?

Yeah, I think I was mainly struggling with doing the longer paraphrases, and that’s what blew out the times I got. I discussed some of that above.

With the recent exercise, I did have to concentrate to ensure I was reading right, remembering right, and then saying them back right. It was definitely much quicker than 10 mins, but it wasn’t merely simple intuitive/second nature work. It felt within my abilities with some effort though. Is that a wrong approach to the exercise? Should I be reading casually, and then casually blurt out a paraphrase, in order to get a better sense of what I’m capable of intuitively?

It’d be cool to find out a more general pattern that is slowing me down when I do these things. A big difference between the two was that saying a paraphrase out loud meant it tended to be a shorter overall summary, like the short ones in the 3-length exercise. Those I wasn’t really having trouble saying. I can’t really do the longer ones just from memory, but sometimes I did remember more details.

I think there is perhaps more to think about here but I’m going to post this for now.

I did some more of the 3-length exercises today. I was much better than previously. (I timed them and used the laps function on the stopwatch for each paraphrase of different length. Sometimes I forgot to press it though.) Something I changed was that I just read the paragraph once before doing them, and while I read I focussed my attention a lot on forming an idea of what was happening as I read it. I don’t know if that’s responsible for the change, or if I just had a bit more experience, or what, but it felt easier and I did a number of paraphrases in one sitting that I thought worked well. Here are some (all are from 1984 still):

The tiny interior of the shop was in fact uncomfortably full, but there was almost nothing in it of the slightest value. The floorspace was very restricted, because all round the walls were stacked innumerable dusty picture-frames. In the window there were trays of nuts and bolts, worn-out chisels, penknives with broken blades, tarnished watches that did not even pretend to be in going order, and other miscellaneous rubbish. Only on a small table in the corner was there a litter of odds and ends—lacquered snuffboxes, agate brooches, and the like—which looked as though they might include something interesting. As Winston wandered towards the table his eye was caught by a round, smooth thing that gleamed softly in the lamplight, and he picked it up.

The junk shop was cramped. Something caught Winston’s eye.

The junk shop was tiny and full of worthless things. Only a small section in the corner looked like it might have anything of interest. Something smooth and shiny caught Winston’s eye.

The junk shop was uncomfortably full, with only small space to walk around on. There were picture frames stacked up the walls, trays of nuts and bolts, and watches that were obviously broken. There only looked to be a small section in the corner that might have anything interesting. A shiny smooth object caught Winstons’ attention.

4:14 total. I came up with what became the medium length one first.


It was a heavy lump of glass, curved on one side, flat on the other, making almost a hemisphere. There was a peculiar softness, as of rainwater, in both the colour and the texture of the glass. At the heart of it, magnified by the curved surface, there was a strange, pink, convoluted object that recalled a rose or a sea anemone.

It was a lump of clear glass with something in it.

It was a smooth lump of clear glass, that contained something like a rose or sea anemone.

It was smooth, clear lump of glass, flat on one side, and curved on the other. It looked like water, and it had the effect of magnifying a small object suspended in the glas that looked something like a rose or a sea anemone.

2:29. Did short first, then medium, then long.


Winston immediately paid over the four dollars and slid the coveted thing into his pocket. What appealed to him about it was not so much its beauty as the air it seemed to possess of belonging to an age quite different from the present one. The soft, rainwatery glass was not like any glass that he had ever seen. The thing was doubly attractive because of its apparent uselessness, though he could guess that it must once have been intended as a paperweight. It was very heavy in his pocket, but fortunately it did not make much of a bulge. It was a queer thing, even a compromising thing, for a Party member to have in his possession. Anything old, and for that matter anything beautiful, was always vaguely suspect. The old man had grown noticeably more cheerful after receiving the four dollars. Winston realized that he would have accepted three or even two.

Winston paid for the object.

Winston handed over four dollars for the glass object. He liked it because it seemed to belong to another time. He realized he probably could’ve offered less for it.

Winston handed over four dollars for the object. It had the air of belonging to another time, and this fascinated him. He guessed that it was a paperweight. It was heavy, but not bulky, so he could conceal it easily. It would be an unusual and so suspicious thing to be caught with it. He realized that he probably could’ve offered less money for it, and the shopkeeper would have still accepted.

4:24.


He lit another lamp, and, with bowed back, led the way slowly up the steep and worn stairs and along a tiny passage, into a room which did not give on the street but looked out on a cobbled yard and a forest of chimney-pots. Winston noticed that the furniture was still arranged as though the room were meant to be lived in. There was a strip of carpet on the floor, a picture or two on the walls, and a deep, slatternly arm-chair drawn up to the fireplace. An old-fashioned glass clock with a twelve-hour face was ticking away on the mantelpiece. Under the window, and occupying nearly a quarter of the room, was an enormous bed with the mattress still on it.

the shopkeeper took winston upstairs to a room that was arranged like a bedroom.

Following the shopkeeper, winston was lead upstairs to a room. There was a chair facing a fireplace, an old 12 hour clock, and a bed under the window.

The shopkeeper lead winston up a tight staircase and over to a room that didn’t look over the street, but over the back courtyard and chimneys. The room was laid out as if it was still in use. A scruffy chair faced a fireplace, a carpet was laid down, and a twelve hour clock sat on the mantlepiece. Under the window was a large wooden bed with the mattress on it.

1:16 - reading and short paraphrase
1:13 - medium paraphrase
1:06 - long paraphrase
3:35 - total


He was holding the lamp high up, so as to illuminate the whole room, and in the warm dim light the place looked curiously inviting. The thought flitted through Winston’s mind that it would probably be quite easy to rent the room for a few dollars a week, if he dared to take the risk. It was a wild, impossible notion, to be abandoned as soon as thought of; but the room had awakened in him a sort of nostalgia, a sort of ancestral memory. It seemed to him that he knew exactly what it felt like to sit in a room like this, in an armchair beside an open fire with your feet in the fender and a kettle on the hob; utterly alone, utterly secure, with nobody watching you, no voice pursuing you, no sound except the singing of the kettle and the friendly ticking of the clock.

The shopkeeper lit the room with his lamp, and Winston found it inviting. He fantasised about living there.

The shopkeepr raised the lamp and in the low light the room looked quite homely. The thought entered winstons mind of renting the room. He knew that was insane. He noticed that he felt like he knew how to live in a place like this. It was like an ancestral memory.

In the soft light of the shopkeepers lamp, the room looked inviting and homely. The thought entered winstons mind of renting the room, but he knew that was a dangerous and insane notion. He felt a familiarity with the room that he couldn’t quite understand. He imagined himself sitting in the chair, warming his feet by the fire, while the kettle boiled. It was like some sort of deep, ancestral memory. The clock ticked away with a friendly sound.

0:42 reading
0:46 short para
1:14: medium para
2:21 long para
5:05 total


There was a small bookcase in the other corner, and Winston had already gravitated towards it. It contained nothing but rubbish. The hunting-down and destruction of books had been done with the same thoroughness in the prole quarters as everywhere else. It was very unlikely that there existed anywhere in Oceania a copy of a book printed earlier than 1960. The old man, still carrying the lamp, was standing in front of a picture in a rosewood frame which hung on the other side of the fireplace, opposite the bed.

There was a bookcase in the corner filled with rubbish. Books had been thoroughly destroyed and it wasn’t likely any survived written before 1960.

Winston noticed a bookcase, and moved towards it. It was filled with trash. The regime has quite thoroughly destroyed books even in the proles quarters. The shopkeeper stood in from of a picture frame.

Winston noticed a book case in the corner of the room, but it was only filled with bits of trash. Books of all kinds had been thoroughly destroyed long ago, and it wasn’t likely than any books before 1960 survived. The shopkeeper stood in front of a picture hung in a rosewood frame on the wall.

0:26 reading
1:00 short para
0:48 medium para
1:46 long para


Winston came across to examine the picture. It was a steel engraving of an oval building with rectangular windows, and a small tower in front. There was a railing running round the building, and at the rear end there was what appeared to be a statue. Winston gazed at it for some moments. It seemed vaguely familiar, though he did not remember the statue.

Winston looked at the picture. It was of a building and it seemed familar.

Winston looked at the picture. It was a metal engraving of an oval building. He noticed he recognised it.

Winston moved over to the picture and looked closer. It was a metal engraving of an oval building with a steel fence around it, a statue out the back, and a tower in front. He somehow recognised it.

2:02 total

Great.

The goal with paraphrasing is to make it shorter and simpler, not original. I think schools push the originality thing though.

If you’re writing an essay and don’t see much to change, just use a quote. Don’t reword stuff just to make it sound original. Changing less reduces the risk of errors by you and is better for readers (e.g. repetition helps with memory and connections between passages).

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Yes okay. That’s a problem with originality that had vaguely occurred to me: If I’m going for originality when paraphrasing something in non-fiction or philosophy I might be changing the meaning when I should be trying to preserve the author’s meaning.

I am going to do more of the 3-length paraphrase exercises now.

I don’t know if you’re still writing regularly. I think that’s important.

I haven’t been doing regular writing practise as assigned. I was last keeping track of daily writing sessions over a month ago, roughly as I started moving. I have been writing a lot more in general than I was e.g 6 months ago, and so I think on some days when I wrote a lot I would consider that part of my writing assignment. It’s become a more regular tool that I use in my life. However, I think that has allowed me get away with being ambiguous and hiding from myself what counts regarding the daily writing assignment. I think I should probably only be counting dedicated writing sessions that have the intention of them being for the assignment.

I have been a bit resistant to the assignment, and avoidant of problem solving it or bringing it up with you. I don’t know why. I feel a bit lacking in the skills to problem solve things like this, but as I say that it sounds like an excuse for not trying.

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Here’s some daily writing I did this morning. I’ve started doing it in a more dedicated way since you asked about it.

My life has been super busy for the past week, which is why I haven’t posted any tutoring work. It was pretty exceptional and I shouldn’t get that busy again.

Yesterday I was thinking about my problems with my scheduling. I came up with a simple plan for the week to keep track of my time. I’ve encountered some problems with it already, but I am not going to go into that now.

Something that has been on my mind today is the idea of self-judgement when trying to investigate ones life or do introspection. Elliot has mentioned that it’s important to separate the phases of problem solving, and importantly, to be able to not be judgemental in the initial investigation stages. I suspect I suffer from this. The idea I think is that problem solving requires first finding problems, then conjecturing solutions, then critically examining those solutions, until you have remaining solution that you have no problems with. So, finding out whether something is a problem requires an open, investigative mind, that isn’t making value judgements just yet. A problem with trying to do introspection about your emotions or investigating problems in your life, is that you can judge that some things are bad without investigating them enough, and end up hiding them from yourself. In my case, I’m trying to get better at scheduling, which means, better budgeting my time. A first step for that is figuring out how I do already spend my time. For that I’m trying to figure out how I spend my time which means keeping track of activities during the day. I can see how bringing out into the open how often you e.g scroll facebook on your phone, could potentially make one uncomfortable, and make one potentially avoid doing that scrolling when you’re keeping an eye on your time. In other words, if you’re judgemental of the fact you scroll on your phone, you might hide that from yourself when it comes to seeing how you spend your time. Like you might be motivated to not do it for the period that you’re keeping track of your time. But that will give you an inaccurate view of how you spend your time! Elliot talks about how there is a reason you spend time on your phone, there is some part of you that thinks that is good and a good use of your time. You need to take the fact that you do spend your time on that thing seriously, and withhold judgement, because you need to try and understand it first.

So how can I tell when I’m being judgemental? I suspect I actually do this a lot. I think even when I am not attempting to keep track of my time, I am somewhat judgemental of how I spend my time, and don’t have an open, investigative mind about it. That’s not the case for all the ways I spend my time, but some ways in particular make me feel bad. Like, scrolling on fb on my phone, or looking at marketplace listings. This morning I thought that I should start doing my tutoring work at 10am, but I was interested in what I was reading, and decided to read for an hour longer. I couldn’t tell whether I was procrastinating or not, and that made me feel bad. But I noticed that I felt bad, and decided that I should keep reading like I seemed to want to, and tell myself it was okay to do that, but to take mental note of it. Maybe something that can block problem solving is feeling like you have to be able to just solve the problem now, when actually it can take some patience, and an open mind. Like you need to be able to kind of separate yourself emotionally from your problems so you can try to understand them in a more objective way. Maybe keeping an eye out for strong emotions regarding how I spend my time is a good place to look for when I’m being judgemental.

I’ve gone back and taken stock of my assignments, because I had fallen behind on some, and I want to get up to date.

I moved to the next video in this playlist.

Edit: I left out the link to the video. That video is here

Here is the sentence:

If you think your future self and your current self are different people, and you define “current self” as you in the current moment, then any decision could only ever affect a future self (and possibly others), and could never affect your current self (which I think was the point of @ingrackes’s question).

Here is Elliot’s tree:

Here is my tree:

I took a while on this (30mins+). The main part I got stuck on how to structure the ‘could effect’ part of the tree, and the ‘and possibly others’ part. I still don’t know how to incorporate ‘(and possibly others)’, because it seems to be making a noun group of ‘self’ and ‘others’ but I don’t know how to make the adverb ‘possibly’ work. One idea was to have another implied clause like ‘and [could] possibly [affect] others’? I don’t really know. It started taking too long (over 30mins) so I thought I’d stop.


Watching Elliots answer now. It looks I got the same broad structure as his. I didn’t change the order so that the subordinate clause was first like him. I knew “if” was a subordinating conjunction, and I’d usually do it, however I think I didn’t because I was just focused on other problems that seemed more important, and when I finished I didn’t decide to tidy that up. Maybe I could’ve done it sooner. Not a big deal I don’t think though.

Okay actually something we did differently is that I didn’t have the implied that playing the role elliot did in his tree. I think his actually makes more sense.

Hmm I did notice something weird with the ‘which I think was’, but I didn’t get that it was an interjection. I think Elliots makes more sense.

In Elliot’s tree, “possibly” seems to be functioning as an adjective, but the dictionaries I checked all said it was only an adverb? I don’t understand his choice. Maybe adverbs can sometimes act as adjectives? That seems to be a big break from what I understand about them.

Okay so three main points of difference between Elliot’s tree and mine:

  • Elliot had the “I think [that]” higher in the tree, and the “that” referring to the whole sentence. Mine just referred to the clause ‘self(s) are different people’. I agree with him.

  • Elliot had “I think” as an interjection in the clause introduced by “which”, not as the subject and verb of that clause like I did. I agree with him.

  • Elliot has “possibly” as an adjective modifying the pronoun “others”. I don’t understand how this is possible and so I don’t agree with him.

I did some simple paraphrases of sentences from Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban using typing instead of speaking. The times I have indicated include the time to first read the paragraph.


It took Harry several days to get used to his strange new freedom. Never before had he been able to get up whenever he wanted or eat whatever he fancied. He could even go wherever he pleased, as long as it was in Diagon Alley, and as this long cobbled street was packed with the most fascinating wizarding shops in the world, Harry felt no desire to break his word to Fudge and stray back into the Muggle world.

Harry had a new freedom that he’d never experienced.

55.37


Harry ate breakfast each morning in the Leaky Cauldron, where he liked watching the other guests: funny little witches from the country, up for a day’s shopping; venerable-looking wizards arguing over the latest article in Transfiguration Today; wild-looking warlocks; raucous dwarfs; and once, what looked suspiciously like a hag, who ordered a plate of raw liver from behind a thick woollen balaclava.

Harry liked to sit in the Leaky Cauldron and watch all the strange witches and wizards come and go.

1:01


After breakfast Harry would go out into the backyard, take out his wand, tap the third brick from the left above the trash bin, and stand back as the archway into Diagon Alley opened in the wall.

After breakfast he’d go out the back and enter Diagon Alley with his wand.

1:01


Harry spent the long sunny days exploring the shops and eating under the brightly colored umbrellas outside cafes, where his fellow diners were showing one another their purchases (“it’s a lunascope, old boy—no more messing around with moon charts, see?”) or else discussing the case of Sirius Black (“personally, I won’t let any of the children out alone until he’s back in Azkaban”). Harry didn’t have to do his homework under the blankets by flashlight anymore; now he could sit in the bright sunshine outside Florean Fortescue’s Ice Cream Parlor, finishing all his essays with occasional help from Florean Fortescue himself, who, apart from knowing a great deal about medieval witch burnings, gave Harry free sundaes every half an hour.

Harry spent his days exploring the shops and studying in cafes.

1:32


Once Harry had refilled his money bag with gold Galleons, silver Sickles, and bronze Knuts from his vault at Gringotts, he had to exercise a lot of self-control not to spend the whole lot at once. He had to keep reminding himself that he had five years to go at Hogwarts, and how it would feel to ask the Dursleys for money for spellbooks, to stop himself from buying a handsome set of solid gold Gobstones (a wizarding game rather like marbles, in which the stones squirt a nasty-smelling liquid into the other player’s face when they lose a point). He was sorely tempted, too, by the perfect, moving model of the galaxy in a large glass ball, which would have meant he never had to take another Astronomy lesson. But the thing that tested Harry’s resolution most appeared in his favorite shop, Quality Quidditch Supplies, a week after he’d arrived at the Leaky Cauldron.

Harry had to be careful not to spend all his money. He had 5 years left of school, and didn’t want to have to ask the Dursleys for money. Many things tempted him, but the thing that tempted him the most was an item in the Quiddich supplies store.

2:28.


Curious to know what the crowd in the shop was staring at, Harry edged his way inside and squeezed in among the excited witches and wizards until he glimpsed a newly erected podium, on which was mounted the most magnificent broom he had ever seen in his life.

Harry saw the crowd in the shop and squeezed past to have a look. He saw the best broom he’d ever seen.

52:00


There were, however, things that Harry needed to buy. He went to the Apothecary to replenish his store of potions ingredients, and as his school robes were now several inches too short in the arm and leg, he visited Madam Malkin’s Robes for All Occasions and bought new ones. Most important of all, he had to buy his new schoolbooks, which would include those for his two new subjects, Care of Magical Creatures and Divination.

Harry bought some more supplies and new books that he needed for this year of school.


Harry got a surprise as he looked in at the bookshop window. Instead of the usual display of gold-embossed spellbooks the size of paving slabs, there was a large iron cage behind the glass that held about a hundred copies of The Monster Book of Monsters. Torn pages were flying everywhere as the books grappled with each other, locked together in furious wrestling matches and snapping aggressively.

Harry saw in the bookshop window a cage that housed the copies of the Monster Book of Monsters. The books were fighting each other and pages were flying everywhere.

1:05


Harry pulled his booklist out of his pocket and consulted it for the first time. The Monster Book of Monsters was listed as the required book for Care of Magical Creatures. Now Harry understood why Hagrid had said it would come in useful. He felt relieved; he had been wondering whether Hagrid wanted help with some terrifying new pet.

Harry checked his booklist, and the Monster Book of Monsters was on it. He understood why Hagrid said he’d need it.

1:00


Harry emerged from Flourish and Blotts ten minutes later with his new books under his arms and made his way back to the Leaky Cauldron, hardly noticing where he was going and bumping into several people.

Harry left the book store and made his way home.

Hm that’s wrong he went back to the leaky cauldron.


He tramped up the stairs to his room, went inside, and tipped his books onto his bed. Somebody had been in to tidy; the windows were open and sun was pouring inside. Harry could hear the buses rolling by in the unseen Muggle street behind him and the sound of the invisible crowd below in Diagon Alley. He caught sight of himself in the mirror over the basin.

Harry climbed the stairs to his room. Someone had been in and cleaned it. The windows were open, and sunlight poured through. He could hear the crowd in the street.

Harry arrived at his room an noticed it had been cleaned.

1:31


As the days slipped by, Harry started looking wherever he went for a sign of Ron or Hermione. Plenty of Hogwarts students were arriving in Diagon Alley now, with the start of term so near. Harry met Seamus Finnigan and Dean Thomas, his fellow Gryffindors, in Quality Quidditch Supplies, where they too were ogling the Firebolt; he also ran into the real Neville Longbottom, a round-faced, forgetful boy, outside Flourish and Blotts. Harry didn’t stop to chat; Neville appeared to have mislaid his booklist and was being told off by his very formidable-looking grandmother. Harry hoped she never found out that he’d pretended to be Neville while on the run from the Ministry of Magic.

It was near the beginning of school term, and Hogwarts students were beginning to arrive in the alley. Harry kept an eye out for Ron and Hermione.

1:34


Harry woke on the last day of the holidays, thinking that he would at least meet Ron and Hermione tomorrow, on the Hogwarts Express. He got up, dressed, went for a last look at the Firebolt, and was just wondering where he’d have lunch, when someone yelled his name and he turned.

On the last day of the holidays, harry still hadn’t seen ron and hermione. He went for a walk and someone called out his name.

0:49


There wasn’t much room inside. Every inch of wall was hidden by cages. It was smelly and very noisy because the occupants of these cages were all squeaking, squawking, jabbering, or hissing. The witch behind the counter was already advising a wizard on the care of double-ended newts, so Harry, Ron, and Hermione waited, examining the cages.

Harry, ron, and hermione waited in the animal wizard shop which was very cramped and full with strange caged animals.

Watching further in the video from about here, I seems that you realise that you your tree wasn’t right regarding this. You said you think you got it a little bit wrong. I’m wondering then if my initial tree was actually more correct and perhaps what you would’ve corrected yours to?

Please give source links for videos you post about.

Maybe there’s an implied verb repetition which the adverb applies to like “and could possibly affect others”.

Your structure here looks reasonable.

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There’s a disagreement. You have knowledge that disagrees with other knowledge. Reaching a conclusion requires, basically, debate – using critical arguments to reach a conclusion. Any approach that basically just assumes one side of a disagreement is right is biased.

If you don’t consciously see what’s good about one side, then you should intuitively want to not reject it. You shouldn’t decide things you don’t understand are false. That doesn’t make sense. It’s things you do understand that you are in a position to judge. When you don’t understand you should want to investigate and figure out the mystery.

Oops, yes I will. I’ve now made an edit in that post to include a link.

Yeah that possibility occurred to me too:

I think that would look like this:

yes

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I had some trouble understanding what exactly this is a response to. After some thinking, I think that you’re offering an explanation for why you shouldn’t be judgemental when looking at your time (and I suppose for introspection in general?). I said that being judgemental could mean you could get an inaccurate view of your time. But you’re explaining that it doesn’t make sense to be judgemental (yet?) in the first place (because, if there is a disagreement, the rational way to resolve it is critical debate. You also need to make inexplicit things explicit in order to debate them, so it doesn’t make sense to make a judgement regarding inexplicit things yet.). Is that roughly on the right track, or am I confused?

Continuing with the grammar videos.

From this video:

Based on your reply, it seems like you have some idea of what counts as “future self” that’s different than “yourself at any point in the future (as opposed to yourself in the current moment)”, but I’m not sure how you’re thinking about it exactly.

Here is Elliot’s tree:

And here is mine:

What are the main points of difference between Elliots tree and mine?

  • Elliot has “opposed” as a noun and the prepositional object of “as”. I have the phrase “as opposed to” functioning as a kind of conjunction grouping the two “yourself” subtrees. I don’t think that Elliot’s can be correct because “opposed” isn’t a noun but an adjective, so it can’t be a prepositional object. I’m not sure that mine is correct, but it seems reasonable to me. I couldn’t find anything solid on the phrase ‘as opposed to’ being a conjunction, but to me it seems intuitively similar in kind to “let alone”, which is considered a conjunction. Just like you can say “I want this as opposed to that” you can say “I don’t want this let alone that”.

It’s in the dictionary as a phrase so your approach is fine. But usually phrases have some sort of reasoning to them instead of being arbitrary special cases.

“opposed” is a participle.

I think the answer may be that “as” is an adverb here. The preposition definitions don’t fit well.

Modifying the adverb example in the 2nd conjunction definition to use “opposed” looks reasonable:

She kissed him goodbye, as opposed to hugging him goodbye.

The “used in comparisons” adverb definition also might potentially work. We’re dealing with a comparison but we aren’t obviously dealing with an extent or degree.

If you want to investigate more, a good next step would be reading definitions of “as” in older dictionaries and reading about its etymology.

You’re on the right track.

You should view these things as disagreements. Like part of you thinks scrolling facebook is good and part thinks its bad, so two different parts of you disagree. This is symmetrical (either side could be right, or they could both be wrong) and should be approached the same way you’d approach a disagreement with another person (assuming you’d approach that rationally).

When you hide information from yourself it’s because you already have a conclusion and already decided one side is bad and wrong, rather than viewing it as an unresolved disagreement to neutrally, objectively investigate. People also do this to other people often: they’re dismissive and assume the other person is wrong instead of viewing it as a disagreement between ideas where either side could be wrong. But people shouldn’t do that. And people sometimes treat things as legitimate disagreements that can be debated, investigated, etc. You probably already do that sometimes. So take that mode of treating things as disagreements, instead of treating it as the other side being wrong/bad/etc., and use it more when dealing with others or yourself.

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I did some writing about this idea for my daily writing:


I like this idea, and it makes a lot of sense to me, but something that bothers me about it, is that I don’t know explicitly why more standard alternative ways to view this are wrong, and why the disagreement view is better than those?

So, what are some other ways to view the fact that you spend time doing something that you apparently don’t think is good? I’m going to brainstorm some:

you lack self control
you lack motivation to do other things
you are distractible
you have an attention disorder/mental illness
you are lying to yourself about what you think is good
you have an addiction to the vice

I’m going to go through and comment on each one.

you lack self control

So, I think self control is thought of as an ability to just direct your behaviour and attention however you decide to. It’s like willpower right. But the concept of self control/willpower seems to not really make sense. I haven’t really tried to articulate this before, but it seems to like, split decision making up in a weird way. It kind of makes the decisions arbitrary or something. Like, I lack the ‘willpower’ to do many things, like say, jump out of my window. But I also don’t lack ‘willpower’ for other things, like eating a tasty meal when I’m really hungry. It’d be strange to explain why I am not jumping out of my window as a lack of ‘willpower’. Just like it would be strange to explain why someone jumped out of a window as a lack of ‘willpower’. It’d be strange to explain my eating of my meal as an example of ‘willpower’. Both situations, (me not jumping out my window, and me eating a meal) are just things that I really want to do, and doing their opposites would require willpower. To do their opposites would require I somehow force myself to do something that I really don’t want to do (jump out a window, not eat a tasty meal sitting in front of me when I’m really hungry.). Interestingly whether I want to do those things would change depending on the context too. Like if I found out the food had deadly poison or drugs in it, I wouldn’t haven’t a problem not eating it, and if I was in a burning building and the fire department had a big safety mat to jump on, I would have much less of an issue jumping out my window.

Right so problems with the concept of self-control/willpower seem clearer to me in the light of thinking about these kinds of things as disagreements. What would it mean to just use willpower to do things? It’d mean ignoring what you already think you should do, and forcing yourself to do some other things. This doesn’t make any sense: how can you decide to do things, while ignoring what you think you should do? How do you decide what things to force yourself to do? Surely you have to be convinced on some level to do the things you’re considering forcing yourself to do? Then why would you feel the need for willpower if you were convinced? If we imagine there are parts of us that think different things or have different conflicting knowledge, then the idea of forcing ourselves to do stuff makes more sense, because in that case it’s parts forcing other parts. It’s some knowledge ignoring other knowledge. But that’s irrational, and not a reliable method for deciding between conflicting ideas. It’s kind of seems like for the concept of willpower to make sense, one needs to think of these things in terms of disagreements.

I didn’t go through the other ones, I kind of ran out of steam.