Rational Discussion Links [CF Article]

I was thinking about wat if I relate discussion to my hobbies or daily activities?

I like some of the points listed from Discussion Structure. They go over things to get good at for a good discussion:

some types of discussion structure. these aren’t about controlling the discussion, they are just different ways it can be organized. some are compatible with each other and some aren’t (you can have multiple from the list, but some exclude each other):

  • asking and answering direct questions
  • addressing unstated, generic questions like “thoughts on what i just said?”
  • one person questioning the other who answers vs. both people asking and answering questions vs. some ppl ignoring questions
  • arguing points back and forth
  • saying further thoughts related to what last person said (relevance levels vary, can be like really talking past each other and staying positive, or can be actual discussion)
  • pursuing a goal stated by one person
  • pursuing a goal stated by two people and mutually agreed on
  • pursuing different and unstated goals
  • 3+ person discussion
  • using quotes of the other discussion participants or not
  • using cites/links to stuff outside the discussion or not
  • long messages, short messages, or major variance in message length
  • talking about one thing at a time
  • trying to resolve issues before moving on vs. just rushing ahead into new territory while there are lots of outstanding unresolved points
  • step by step vs. chaotic
  • people keeping track of the outline or just running down rabbit holes

The discussion structure article sounds good cuz like the way a discussion is organized is more important than its content. More important for the discussion to go well.

I wanna try to relate discussion so I can see how useful it is and i wanna like it. I wanna use it to help me with my goals

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This quote talks about making progress yourself while asking for help:

You tried to solve W problem, you thought of X and Y, you ran into difficulty Z, and the question is how to make progress from there. Tell that story. You should be looking for help making progress yourself, and getting your own learning process unstuck, not looking for other people to think for you.

I like that cuz it’s not just asking others’ for help. Like if you’re able to tell a good story, you’re not just asking for other people’s help, you’re also laying out the problem for you too. That sounds helpful.