This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://curi.us/2576-review-of-my-quotation-accuracy
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Good job!
I thought I was doing a good job with my quotations, even in informal contexts
Nice, youāre a scholar through and through.
There is a missing period at the end in Curiosity ā Dennis Hackethal, Plagiarist
it looks like you did tell me that [sentence], in which case the right thing to do is to credit you
Is that pedantic? Also I canāt know whether the original text actually had a period there since Hackethal didnāt provide a link.
Hmm. Now that it has been pointed out to me I wonder about partially quoting stuff. Like lets say I say, āI like school only on Fridays.ā and you quote it like:
I like school
not indicating something has been cut-off. This feels similar to misquoting. I mean I did say that, but important information is missing. I donāt think the quotes Dennis went over from you are close to that, but the though still comes to mind
Also did he review this stuff or did a program do it? From his quote checker website:
- This tool is in its beta stage. Expect things to break; proceed with caution.
I think it is. Idk if the period is even necessary. Also. Hmm. How would I put it. You didnāt talk about the ellipses and stuff that Elliot didnāt put in so I assume youāre ok with him not doing that (I am too, I donāt either) but why would the period even matter here?
If there is no period then that implies that there is more text, that the sentence didnāt end, because itās typical to include the period. I think you should include it because itās cheap. It gives more context without putting almost any strain on the reader.
In Quote Checker Ā· āElliot Temple misquotes Dennis Hackethalā by Dennis Hackethal he made a note which means he had to review it:
Egregiously misleading misquote.
(The quote doesnāt seem misleading to me.)
That would be misleading because itās taken out of context. Curiosity ā Misquoting Is Conceptually Similar to Deadnaming: A Suggestion to Improve EA Norms says:
The second type of misquote is a misleading quote, such as taking words out of context.
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Why did you include the part after the question mark?
Yeah, Iām okay with that.
Itās common not to include a period at the end of a quote when quoting less than a full sentence.
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Thereās no mechanical rule to determine whether a quote is misleading. Using an ellipsis often wouldnāt prevent a quote from being misleading. For example, quoting
I like school only on Fridays.
as
I like school ā¦
would be a misleading quote.
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Thats fair. Iām unsure if I thought that ellipsis would be a reasonable solution when I originally wrote that, but yeah what you say makes sense. Adding ā¦ wouldnāt make it less misleading.
Hmm since its been a bit I canāt tell you exactly why but in general I like quoting the stuff around the main thing Iām quoting. Though in this case I didnāt quote the stuff after since you had in your original post so idk.
The other thing I can think of is because it makes clear the pedantic thing you were talking about. Though I guess it isnāt too clear that you were talking about a period.
I updated the post:
An error has been brought to my attention which Iāve corrected. I wrote āon the dictionaryās website it says āTheā with a capital letterā, but I was wrong. I didnāt carefully double check all of Hackethalās claims and repeated one of his errors. I didnāt notice that he linked a web definition from the wrong dictionary: The Oxford Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. The webpage for the correct dictionary doesnāt make the definition publicly available. The print version of New Oxford American Dictionary, like the Mac version and my quote, has lowercase ātheā. Thank you for the correction to my alert reader who says he wishes to remain anonymous out of fear of being targeted by Hackethal.