Dface's Discussion of "Judging and Fixing Your Own Errors"

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Topic Summary:

Here I’ll discuss the following article: Judging and Fixing Your Own Errors

Goal:

Write and think more about the topic

CF Relevance:

Learn about judging your own errors

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What can you do about this?

I think “this.” Means what was said in the previous paragraph about knowing the impact of solutions in retrospect. I think I can replace this to say something like this:

What can you do about usually only knowing the impact of the solution in retrospect?

Here’s the paragraph after the quote above:

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There’s no perfect solution. You have to make fallible judgment calls.

First sentence:

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There’s no perfect solution.

I think if you come up with a solution, it’ll work to some extent. But there might still be some downsides to it. That or youll maybe find out more about whats bad about the issue.

Second sentence:

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You have to make fallible judgment calls.

I think I see now how judgement calls can be fallible. Like you dont know everything yet about an issue in the beginning. You can make a judgement call to fix an issue, but you probably dont know all the benefits and downsides to it yet.

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@Elliot

The ideal thing to do is automatize dealing with easy problems.

I get it now why you want to automatize dealing with easy problems. I was thinking this quote was a direct response to how to deal with perfectionism mentioned a few paragraphs ago. But because now I learned about the impact of solutions and knowing those in retrospect, I see the connection of the quote to the ideas.

I think the paragraphs before the quote above explain the problem, and now the quote above provides a solution for perfectionism.

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Imma be analyzing this quote:

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Figure out the standard patterns of error and deal with them in ways that you can reuse with little effort.

There’s standard patterns of error? Does that mean you can figure out the patterns of error in any topic? Like when you start learning a new topic thats kinda unrelated, you can easily identify the same patterns there? Is that why some “geniuses” can pick something up and learn pretty quickly?

There’s two parts to the solution: You figure out the standard patterns of error + you deal with them in a way you can reuse with little effort.

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This is the following quote imma write about:

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Then you can deal with minor errors cheaply, and you’ll have much less reason to try to ignore errors.

This to me seems like the impact of a solution. If you automatize dealing with easy problems then you can do what’s described in the quote above.

Also, after reading the quote above I can see why it’s so difficult to start a new skill for me. I dont think I deal with minor errors cheaply. It takes some good effort to learn something that looked easy to do. I think that’s why im kind of a perfectionist. I’m worried if a small error is gonna f me up.

I think if youre a perfectionist and you learn how to deal with minor errors cheaply, you’ll have less reason to ignore errors that come up. You already deal with small errors well. The error you just encountered is probably an actual error

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@Elliot

Bad choices about how to begin can prevent getting to a good situation where you don’t run into too many hard, time-consuming problems to deal with.

Bad choices about how to begin getting good at solving easy problems I think.

What are those bad choices? I can’t think of anything? I think maybe starting a big project where the person is going to do something really difficult is a bad choice.

This is what the bad choices can prevent:

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getting to a good situation where you don’t run into too many hard, time-consuming problems to deal with.

I see the word “situation” is used in the quote. That situation can determine if you’re gonna deal with really hard problems or maybe problems that are going to challenge you the right amount.

In that “good situation,” you’re not gonna run into too many of the kinds of problem that are time consuming and hard. I see in the quote above it describes the problems like this:

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hard, time-consuming problems

Do adjectives in a list work the same as an AND operator? Like the problems we’re talking about are the hard AND time consuming ones.

I wonder what “time-consuming” means. It’s probably like it takes up a lot of your time that you could be doing other stuff.

I see the problems are “hard” but that doesn’t sound that bad on its own. It’s when you’re taking so long on them to solve that it becomes another problem.

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@Elliot

Also, there’s a common problem when people start setting some issues aside to come back to later. They find the list grows much faster than they actually go back to and address any issues they saved for later. Eventually they may realize they’ll never do most stuff that they don’t prioritize immediately. Most things being “now or never” is a bad situation to be in.

I swear I read this whole paragraph differently before I started writing about the previous paragraphs. I think what popped up in my mind before was gathering a lot of words that you wanna define later, but then you never get to it cuz you procrastinate or something.

Now im thinking you can set aside the issues like you can with errors. Setting aside errors was talked about in the paragraph before the quote above.

Here’s the first sentence of the quote above:

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Also, there’s a common problem when people start setting some issues aside to come back to later.

I see the problem is common. Like, a lot of people deal with it I think. I think the problem is, “deal with the issue later.” How are you going to deal with the issue? When are you going to deal with it? In what order are you going to deal with the issues later?

Here’s the subordinate clause of the sentence above:

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when people start setting some issues aside to come back to later.

Why are people setting those issues aside? They want to come back to them later?

The common problem happens at the time the clause above happens. It doesn’t sound bad at first like they can come back to the issues later, but why do they gotta come back to it later?

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They find the list grows much faster than they actually go back to and address any issues they saved for later.

It’s like they’re not solving stuff fast enough. “the list” is that of the issues they saved for later.

So according to the quote above, there’s two rates of two things: The first thing is the list of issues that people set aside. That has a rate of growth. I think they’re putting so many issues aside.

The second thing is going back to the list and addressing the issues. The person can do that at a certain rate. The problem is that the list of issues is growing faster than they could solve them.

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@Elliot

To judge which errors are important well, you have to set appropriate goals. Say you’re trying to throw a ball to someone. What exactly is the goal? A reasonable goal is throwing it within arm’s reach of your partner. You might also want to throw it somewhere he can catch it if he runs. But you could have a goal of throwing it to an exact spot in the air in front of him. You could aim for millimeter precision or even literally perfect precision.

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To judge which errors are important well, you have to set appropriate goals.

You can judge something about errors well. I remember there’s a CF article talking about measuring vs. judging things. I forgot the difference.

I wonder what an appropriate goal is. If you set those then you can judge which error is important well.

I didnt think goals were so powerful. I thought goals were just things you set and have not much say about anything in particular. I think I never learned how good they could be. A part of me doesnt take them seriously. A part of me sees them as flimsy things. I dont think I know everything about goals so I dont want to judge.

I want to know why goals can help you deal with errors. I wanna know how appropriate goals can help you judge which errors are important well. I think I need to see appropriate goals work in action.

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I’m glad to see you posting a lot.

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Thank you that article about how to write a lot helped

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@Elliot

Say you’re trying to throw a ball to someone.

This sounds like a goal to me. It’s not tht specific tho. It’s like a brief description about what you’re going to do. The quote makes me think it’s a general purpose goal or something like that.

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What exactly is the goal?

This makes sense to me to ask cuz:

• Where is this other person?
• Is the person running or not?
• Where are you throwing it at?
• Is the other guy trying to catch it?

I think if you talk about the exact goal, you’re bringing more context into it.

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A reasonable goal is throwing it within arm’s reach of your partner.

That’s a reasonable goal cuz then that has the other person catch the ball. Now it seems like you guys are playing something tht involves catching. Idk

I think the goal is reasonable cuz you’re trying to throw the ball to be within range. There’s a lot of variance that the action can have. Like you can end up throwing the ball over their head and thats still within arm’s reach.

I think the goal is also reasonable cuz it’s not impossible. Like, it’s not under heavy criticism

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You might also want to throw it somewhere he can catch it if he runs.

I think this is another example of a reasonable goal. Idk what makes it reasonable.

If he runs it doesnt sound impossible to throw it where he can catch if he runs.

I think if something is reasonable then it’s related to reason. I think reason is about ideas being subject to criticism. If an idea isn’t refuted then it’s reasonable I think. Idk

I think in the quote above, the goals are reasonable cuz it’s not wrong to think that you got arms that can throw things. It’s not wrong to set up a goal to use your arms to throw things at a reasonable range.